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    Certificates don't mean much, and I would hope most people in hiring positions are smart enough to understand that. The most incompetent person I have EVER worked with on a Red project had gone through one of the Red training programs already in place (not run by Red of course). Was it the programs fault he was incompetent? Absolutely not. Stupid people are just stupid. Talented people are talented. There is no certificate in the world that can tell you which category a person is in.

    I was thinking, when it comes time to upgrade to the new Epics and Scarlets, might Reducation offer a special cheap (or free!!! hehe) one day Epic/scarlet course for Red One owners?
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    Even though I have owned my camera for 15 months, I am always learning. I am considering this class, especially the post side.

    But if the class takes place before EPIC/Scarlet arrive, and focusses only on the Red One, it would be nice to have a significantly discounted option to attend a future class that focuses on those new systems. For those who shell out $2500 on a Red One-centric workshop, that would be a reasonable added-value gesture to make the plunge more worth it.
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    I know its not a definite offer of hands on experience with the new cameras, but the REDucation site does say:

    "The development of next Generation Scarlet and Epic cameras will also be presented and discussed"

    I agree, If early classes focus on R1, and future classes include Epic as standard, (That is, if Epic workflow differs massively) then a discount on a second shorter, 1 or 2 day epic catch up would be one option of a way to go.

    I would hazard a guess that a lot will be similar between the workflow of the two camera systems, and that the biggest difference would be rigging and setup.

    Fingers crossed anyway.
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    DVD is the best idea I've ever heard regarding Red education...
    Especially if you're got those expensive guys/materials in one room.
    I now Red know it's not about making money with education, it's about spreading the Red love round the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by david farland View Post
    DVD is the best idea I've ever heard regarding Red education...
    Especially if you're got those expensive guys/materials in one room.
    I now Red know it's not about making money with education, it's about spreading the Red love round the world.

    D
    Even better would be to get the school up online. I think www.Adobe.tv is a good example of how to do this. Reach the GLOBE instantly.

    RED hardware and third party software are fast moving targets - having videos produces at the sessions and after the fact - would allow RED to be able to edit, remove and update videos as things change. YES this is a big undertaking with costs - but it could be set up as SaaS with a small monthly subscription to offset admin. costs - and you could also subsidize with third party sponsors - who could have a "RED-approved" product video (that they produce) posted for a fee.

    Anyway, I think the whole concept is fantastic - excited to see how it develops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark L. Pederson View Post
    Even better would be to get the school up online. I think www.Adobe.tv is a good example of how to do this. Reach the GLOBE instantly.

    RED hardware and third party software are fast moving targets - having videos produces at the sessions and after the fact - would allow RED to be able to edit, remove and update videos as things change. YES this is a big undertaking with costs - but it could be set up as SaaS with a small monthly subscription to offset admin. costs - and you could also subsidize with third party sponsors - who could have a "RED-approved" product video (that they produce) posted for a fee.

    Anyway, I think the whole concept is fantastic - excited to see how it develops.
    Red tv! sounds fantastic... could also help to clear up some of the camera and workflow issues and take some of the weight off the forum. a good way to keep upto date with all things Red
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    DVD and online stuff does sound good for post workflow- but I feel that the technical aspect will be much better hands on. Also, the interaction you have between people as you work on a project is very valuable. Going through the course of a production and asking questions as they arise simply can't be replaced.
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    I just paid a deposit and got this message after payment....

    Safari can’t open the page “https://www.reducation.net/thanks.html” because it couldn’t establish a secure connection to the server “www.reducation.net”.

    now what?
    Kind regards,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Whitcomb View Post
    I just paid a deposit and got this message after payment....

    Safari can’t open the page “https://www.reducation.net/thanks.html” because it couldn’t establish a secure connection to the server “www.reducation.net”.

    now what?
    THANK YOU
    You will be notified of the upcoming training dates and location and confirmation of your attendance via email shortly. REDucation has a limited amounts of seats to insure ample hands on and proper instructor participant ratio and you will be notified with the training availability.

    try this link:)

    http://www.reducation.net/thanks.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raul Gonzo View Post
    DVD and online stuff does sound good for post workflow- but I feel that the technical aspect will be much better hands on. Also, the interaction you have between people as you work on a project is very valuable. Going through the course of a production and asking questions as they arise simply can't be replaced.
    100% agree.

    I was suggesting a RED.tv to be an extension of REDucation. This way - people around the world can get access to information. And I think it's really important to acknowledge how fast all of this is moving. You can teach a "best practice" and three months later - there's firmware change, new third-party software, new third party hardware - and a new BETTER practice. I love "hand-on" workshops - this is the very best way to train - but I think there is a HUGE opportunity here to EXTEND the reach of REDucation - which could also feature INTERNALLY PRODUCED videos from time-to-time about key things related to the camera, etc.
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