RED Rocket update...

[Chris Parker]

Steve hit the nail on the head. Right now we are on Color version 1.0. 2.0 has the potential to be just plain awesome when combined with a rocket.

[dyingstar]

This thing sounds awesome! Can't wait to get a look at it closer to launch.

[JonathanF]

And add my voice to those calling for the unified .look file structure to come a bit faster! I would dearly love to set my look and curves in RedCine and upload it to camera...

I think there is a lot of good sense in manufacturers to follow the ASC's CDL format which you can learn more about on Wikipedia and www.theasc.com.

There's already support for it in Lustre and other manufacturers are following suit. Being able to use TIming software to make CDL's that could go to the camera would be really nice. I know if I could take CDL's in from RA and RC it would make my life easier. But we're kinda in the wrong thread for this discussion...

:J

[Hans von Sonntag]

Carl,

while i don't disagree that Davinci and Color were developed with different goals in mind, I do disagree that color can not be used in a high end commercial environment with clients in the room. We do this on a daily basis and have award winning results (the other nominees were both graded on the davinci).

Hi Alex,

There is alot of good work on your reel that shows that Color is very capable of highend colour timing when someone skilled is using it. As a former FinalTouch user I know what Color can do but it has one big downside: it's not RT. You're saying that you use Color with clients behind your neck. I find it close to impossible to tell a client that she/he cannot see the new grades in real time. Fortunately I don't server clients but I do a a lot of grading for my own projects, so to speak serving myself. I stopped using FinalTouch/Color for this annoying reason of not playing back in real time and invested some money on a solution that does RT. From an artist point of view I find RT a must: when colour timing you are in a pace, kind of a trip - anything that interrupts you is bad.

Otherwise it's great that Apple is giving away a grading tool for nothing. But as long as they don't support NVIDIA SDI out (not supported on Macs - why...?) and don't implement ordinary EDL conforming Color won't be in the realm of a pro grading tool.


Hans

[Deanan]

I tend to use Supermicro too, just not for mobile systems and there is no such thing as extended eATX or double extended.
It is either extended or it is not, please please be more specific. Thank you.

If it were eATX, there would be a lot of options. Supermicro calls it Enhanced eATX.

The board does not fit in an eATX case or matches up with all the eATX holes.

[Craig Schober]

Hi Alex,

There is alot of good work on your reel that shows that Color is very capable of highend colour timing when someone skilled is using it. As a former FinalTouch user I know what Color can do but it has one big downside: it's not RT.

so will the redrocket make color a realtime app for 4k material? playback? rendering/export time? can anyone (particularly from red) confirm this?

thanks.

[Peter Majtan]

Hi Alex,

There is alot of good work on your reel that shows that Color is very capable of highend colour timing when someone skilled is using it. As a former FinalTouch user I know what Color can do but it has one big downside: it's not RT. You're saying that you use Color with clients behind your neck. I find it close to impossible to tell a client that she/he cannot see the new grades in real time. Fortunately I don't server clients but I do a a lot of grading for my own projects, so to speak serving myself. I stopped using FinalTouch/Color for this annoying reason of not playing back in real time and invested some money on a solution that does RT. From an artist point of view I find RT a must: when colour timing you are in a pace, kind of a trip - anything that interrupts you is bad.

Otherwise it's great that Apple is giving away a grading tool for nothing. But as long as they don't support NVIDIA SDI out (not supported on Macs - why...?) and don't implement ordinary EDL conforming Color won't be in the realm of a pro grading tool.


Hans

Hans, with all due respect - I am trained DaVinci colorist, but for the past couple of years I have switched over to Color. Right now I am finishing grading on a Mexican feature film DESAFIO (shot on RED) in Color and I could not be happier. Sure Color has few glitches and You have to know how to make it work with FCP and RED footage, but this is not what I want to say. What I do want to say is that like editing - color grading is first and foremost an art. 95+% of FCP users use less then 10% of FCP functionality. Color grading tools are very similar in what they do. In fact it is not that hard to write a color grading app - I know, I did it in Japan - a complete color grading interface for SHAKE that plugs in with JL Cooper HW. I agree with You that some tools are better for something and others for something else. But there is no way You could not call Color a professional tool. What really defines a "PRO" tool? When it comes to art - it is the artist. A pencil can become a "PRO" tool. The main reason I switched over to Color is that I have my own business and I have to buy my own gear. Our customers are perfectly happy with FCS and the value it delivers. With RED ROCKET that value is that much more attractive...

:) Peter

[Vico Martin]

Hans, with all due respect - I am trained DaVinci colorist, but for the past couple of years I have switched over to Color. Right now I am finishing grading on a Mexican feature film DESAFIO (shot on RED) in Color and I could not be happier. Sure Color has few glitches and You have to know how to make it work with FCP and RED footage, but this is not what I want to say. What I do want to say is that like editing - color grading is first and foremost an art. 95+% of FCP users use less then 10% of FCP functionality. Color grading tools are very similar in what they do. In fact it is not that hard to write a color grading app - I know, I did it in Japan - a complete color grading interface for SHAKE that plugs in with JL Cooper HW. I agree with You that some tools are better for something and others for something else. But there is no way You could not call Color a professional tool. What really defines a "PRO" tool? When it comes to art - it is the artist. A pencil can become a "PRO" tool. The main reason I switched over to Color is that I have my own business and I have to buy my own gear. Our customers are perfectly happy with FCS and the value it delivers. With RED ROCKET that value is that much more attractive...

:) Peter

... and up to date the only app with R3D metadata editor with "I see what I´m doing" inside it.

[Vico Martin]

and push blacks like a charm! :)

[M Most]

... and up to date the only app with R3D metadata editor with "I see what I´m doing" inside it.

No, it's the only Apple app with that. Lots of other apps have it, in fact, just about any app that uses the SDK has it.