Upgrade Modules only for Epic-X? Why?

[Roberto B]

in international english hype can have both negative & positive senses.. no forget there's formal informal slang english not only in CA.. in americas.. british europe.. continental europe.. oceania.. asia.. africa

- the gang

[Rick Darge]

Epic ff-35 + canon ff k-35 superspeeds

bring it on

[Scott Crawley]

Why is it that upgrading to the Epic-X will get us the CF/Battery/IO modules, but not if we upgrade to one of the other Epic cameras?

I'd say it is because you bought a camera that was still in beta stages of development. The Epic X is the final evolution of the product... the gold release, if you will. Red was simply allowing you to get your hands on the product early to your mutual benefit because the beta was so very functional, but they knew it would take quite a while to polish. That is how I read it, anyway.

[Stephen Pruitt]

Personally, I'd like to see more details about the RED One to Epic-X upgrade program as well as the date of shipping of the FF35.
For me, it might make more sense to just upgrade our One and then later take the plunge into the Monstro. It's all quite up in the air, of course, but more information on likely shipping dates would be amazing. We are starting to shoot our next film in almost exactly one year and I'd really like to shoot it using the latest and greatest technology RED has to offer.

Stephen

[Steve Murray]

After shooting with my R1 for 14 months - I have zero complaints. In fact I've never been treated this good by any company - camera or otherwise.

But I must say it would be really great if we could choose the FF35 Epic and receive the X bonus items... really, really great.

[Steven Caesare]

"Here's an inch."

"I'll take a mile."

[Nelson Goforth]

One item I have not seen discussed is whether moving from an S35-sized sensor to the FF35 sensor will mean having to purchase (or rent) a whole new kind of lens. Will a DP be able to rent the set of Super Speeds they love?

Cine lenses are made for a smaller sensor/aperture (24.5mm wide or so) than are 35mm still lenses. Will most of the existing cine lenses cover the larger frame size of the FF35 (36mm)?

[Nelson Goforth]

Answering my own question, in part.

I see that Matthew Duclos is putting together a database of image circles for a number of lenses. The discussion is here http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=33642

The database is at http://web.me.com/ducloslenses/DataRef/ImgCir.html

And the answer is: some of them, but not many, will be able to cover the 43.27mm image circle required by FF35 (I only listed the width above...but that hypotenuse will get you every time).

[J. Eric Camp]

I find it absurd to complain about the upgrade options.

If one bought an Altima and then Nissan said, we will let you trade it back in for a full original retail price credit towards this years Altima, would one then complain than one could not get that Altima trade in towards a 370z?
Oh but with the comfort trim package from the Altima deal.

A company offers an unprecedented level of client appreciation and monetary consideration and people continue to complain.

Amazing.

I am not singling anyone out, just sharing my shock.

[Jeff Kilgroe]

would one then complain than one could not get that Altima trade in towards a 370z?

You know they would...

And yes, I'm shocked that people are complaining. We've been given several very generous upgrade paths as a reward for being RED One owners. And yet it is never enough for some.