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    Have you guys heard of any movies going for the 28k resolution?

    Personally, I will see that movie based on the resolution alone. 28k compressed for theaters would be incredible. I think it would take a while for CGI to catch up with 28k though...no?
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    That camera wont be available for quite a while...
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    How much is too much? Would your eyes notice a difference between 8k & 28K? Not to mention if projecting digitally at 4k is finally picking up, how much longer until we can project anything at 28k?

    For me, 9k is enough, 28k would only be practical for vfx.
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    Hmmm... I'd far rather finish seven long form projects at 4K simultaneously then to push one at 28K through the pipeline... unless I had ILM's render farm handy... and the world's most chill production team... and a "really far in the distance" delivery date... But ya never know.
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    I recommend going and seeing some Imax films that are shot on 15 perf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Kennedy View Post
    How much is too much? Would your eyes notice a difference between 8k & 28K? Not to mention if projecting digitally at 4k is finally picking up, how much longer until we can project anything at 28k?

    For me, 9k is enough, 28k would only be practical for vfx.
    Downscaling to 4K for eliminating noise = ISO 16000 noise free?

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    I don't think there's a projection format currently available that can do 28K justice. Instead, using 12K over the same sensor size would get you incredible resolution - with a greater pixel per area (or the other way round???) density. To leverage that kind of resolution, 35mm projection film isn't enough, we have to go for 70mm, and we know how rare those are. That said, of course this is a thing of the future, as we move to digital projectors with greater resolutions.

    My other concern is - how much light would you need to get a deep depth of field for a 16x9 sensor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pietro Impagliazzo View Post
    Downscaling to 4K for eliminating noise = ISO 16000 noise free?


    To be honest, I don't know too much about downscaling to get higher ISO. Lately I've been doing more editing than shooting but wanted to do test this for a long time now, have to pay for those bills...

    Downscaling down to 4k to make it ISO 16000 not too sure; but noise free though, there will still be some sort of noise. Nowhere as noticeable at least.
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    In a sense of a digital matte painting/backdrop it makes sense. There was a shot in Harry Potter that was a wide of the landscape and a building. The camera needed to zoom into a lit window. The Matte Painting was done at 20K. There wasn't any movement in the background but you get where I am going.
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    I think a lot of people underestimate the applications for 28K and the EPIC 617. In addition to that, it's not just about resolution. The resolution and panoramic format will be beneficial to FX work as Tim mentions, but it will also be an incredible tool for large format digital signage, advertising, etc..

    Super-sampling 28K down to 4K or whatnot doesn't boost dynamic range or sensitivity. However, it does combat noise. One of the best methods of mitigating noise is to increase resolution. So 28K boiled down to 4K should result in some very clean looking images. However, the frame size and perspective achieved with the 617 format is vastly different than shooting 4K in S35 format. Keep in mind that while a 100mm lens is considered to be a long focal length when used on S35, it's a very wide focal length when used on a 6x17 sensor. 6x17 is roughly 2.5X the size of 15/70 IMAX!
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