November 30th Announcement Feedback

[Yannick Verry]

On the UI picture we can see there's the central view with focusing point, but we can see the landscape out of the frame too (shadowed).

It's probably a stupid question but is it just safe margins or can we actually see what's around the recorded frame (like on leica telemetric cameras) ?

[Hrvoje Simic]

I may be wrong but both of these methods would seem less accurate in a run and gun situation than controlling an X cursor on the LCD/viewfinder with a pressure sensitive joystick/rocker on the side handle under my right thumb...which also would work in the VF as opposed to just on the LCD and be more accurate for very narrow DOF focus than any one of my fingers touching a 2.8'' or 5'' lcd.

Joystick would have the benefit of using right hand for focusing (and multitasking while holding the camera) and allowing left hand to be used for better camera angle control (when controlling focus and its speed are not creative intent), and not covering the image with your hand while choosing focus point

but...

it would have a serious downside, which is its responsiveness vs. precision factor. Joystick control depends on linear path which makes it very limited for this purpose. You cannot jump to a focus point, you have to go there. The path of moving to that particular point takes a certain amount of time, which is either fixed or digitally dependent. In most cases joystick would be either too fast or too slow because its speed would almost never be adequate for natural control. If it would be too fast the operator would have trouble precisely choosing focus point, if it would be too slow you'd end up playing video games on your monitor chasing talents across the screen. Rocker would have the same limitations with digital linear control. Digital FF knob is an exception because of its natural rotational control and natural speed control. Slider also has similar advantage.

The advantage of touchscreen focusing is its non-linear focus point selection

but...

- in HH it will cause additional camera shake,
- operator covers the part of the image with his/hers hand
- during touch-screen focusing left hand is not used for two handed camera control
- its control will be very limited on smaller touch screens

that's why I suggested...

a touchpad (cca 2") under the thumb on the handle, which would pretty much take care of all the issues and it would allow very intuitive focusing and natural and precise manual focus tracking.

[Ethan Cooper]

Get these suckers to market already, I'm itching to play with one. 2/3" without compromises is good enough for me.

[Jerrod Cordell]

No new 16GB cards..

REDCODE 100 is going to be 1.8" SSD territory.

God, I'm just filled with questions.

Will REDCODE 100 work on the current RED Hard Drives?

Also, an inquiry on the price of the 1/8" SSDs?

[albert rudnicki]

I'm sorry if I'm being repetitive and boring, but...

I've asked a few times on this thread if there is going to be a PL mount adapter for the Scarlet.

Three other people have asked as well.

But there has been no answer.

No PL mount adapter is mentioned in the Nov 30 update or price list.

This would surely be the most useful adapter, given the easy availability of 16mm lenses.

(The Scarlet will come with a mini-PL mount, which I understand is not the same.)

Can anyone confirm that we will be able to use 16mm glass?

Paul

Paul
Unless something have changed recently, I had a confirmation few months ago from Jim that yes Scarlet 2/3 will have PL mount.
I am also very concern about it as I have invested $5.800 in S16 lenses to go on my scarlet.

[Todd M.]

While I do understand your frustration, what I think Tim is trying to say is you get what you get.

In october we all though we were getting Scarlet Specs, now people find out they have to wait for info on the s35 and ff35 models. But at least you got a supposed date right?

Obviously a lot of info is missing. For instance,

1) prices of any kind of AC adapter for scarlet
2) SSD prices
3) delivery dates for other mounts (B4, C, MiniRED)
4) number 21 on the specification sheet

just to name a few

Look, you know the basic abilities of the Scarlet line, specifically the 2/3" range. The S35 Scarlet brain is going to be $7000 you know that. You know the prices of most of the modules.

Really, things can only get better for you. Maybe increased data rates, frame rates, who knows. But you did get enough info to plan for the approximate costs of a set up so go run with that

Peter, I think you are being very nice in trying to empathize with Clayton's issue, but I think what Tim was really trying to do was manage some expectations.

While I love the interaction with RED, and getting these updates from Jim, Jarred, Stuart, Graham, Deanan and the rest of the crew the unfortunate side effect is that it breeds some unfair expectations among a small, but vocal, few. The simple fact of the matter is that we are 5-8 months from the release of Scarlet and we already know a great deal about how it will look, feel and operate.


Clayton, how far in advance did you know the specs of the venerable 5D and 7D before the release date? I'm guessing it wasn't 5-8 months. If you can't wait to buy a camera, don't wait; go buy what you need. If you have a specific question, ask NICELY and I'm sure one of the crew here will do their utmost to get you an answer (as far as they know what that answer is at this point). I just think the way you are phrasing your requests is a little disrespectful to the incredibly hard work RED is putting forth and the unprecedented transparency with which they are conducting it.

[Dave Blackham]

Paul
Unless something have changed recently, I had a confirmation few months ago from Jim that yes Scarlet 2/3 will have PL mount.
I am also very concern about it as I have invested $5.800 in S16 lenses to go on my scarlet.

Its critical for us too. Sorry to go on about it.......

[Mikael Lubtchansky]

And since the mount is interchangeable, there will be many options available... we are still deciding which ones to come out with first.

posted by Jarred earlier in this thread so I don't see why a PL mount for 16/35mm lenses would be ignored.

[Jarred Land]

I'm sorry if I'm being repetitive and boring, but...

I've asked a few times on this thread if there is going to be a PL mount adapter for the Scarlet.

Three other people have asked as well.

But there has been no answer.

No PL mount adapter is mentioned in the Nov 30 update or price list.

This would surely be the most useful adapter, given the easy availability of 16mm lenses.

(The Scarlet will come with a mini-PL mount, which I understand is not the same.)

Can anyone confirm that we will be able to use 16mm glass?

Paul

Yes there will be a standard PL mount for Scarlet 2/3rds removable so you can use 35mm and 16mm glass. This is how I shot The Time Tank Revisited with the Scarlet 2/3" Prototype and RED PRO 85mm PRIME remember :)

[Gene Crucean]

The lens info is saved in the R3D metadata.

Whiiiich is in a sidecar XML file along with LUT info and other awesomeness?! Yesssss!



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