November 30th Announcement Feedback

[Roberto Lequeux]

good idea :)

Are we there yet? :)

[Nik Harper]

My questions already got lost i think so i'll ask one more time just in case it will be seen the second time haha.

First, is the 1.8" ssd reader essential for uploading clips? Or can you upload without it?

Second, what is the uploading like? Do you just drag your clips off of the drive onto the computer? Or is there some other process?

[Justin O'Neill]

First, is the 1.8" ssd reader essential for uploading clips? Or can you upload without it?

One option is: "Remote camera control and Files can be copied off the media via gigabit ethernet". #7 on the Nov. 30th announcement.

Jarred clarifying:

To clarify -

You record to the camera media first, then you can copy that file (or files) over Ethernet.

[Nik Harper]

One option is: "Remote camera control and Files can be copied off the media via gigabit ethernet". #7 on the Nov. 30th announcement.

Jarred clarifying:

yeah i saw that, and that is pretty tight, i must say. but i was just wondering about the 1.8" methods more specifically, but now that we're talking about it, is the gigE method where you plug an ethernet cable from camera to computer or what?

[Justin O'Neill]

Yeah I imagine you plug one end of an ethernet cable into the brain and one end into your computer and the media mounts as an external drive. Pretty cool.

[Norman B. Miller]

Was wondering if the HDR can be used for motion as well as stills on the Scarlet?

[paulherrin]

Was wondering if the HDR can be used for motion as well as stills on the Scarlet?

we don't know much about the HDR feature on the new cameras as of yet... though we can expect it will be more than the typical auto bracketing on DSLR's.

now, of course - you could use even that for time-lapse motion. some have speculated there will be HDR video capabilities... I doubt it very much so.

though, i think with the latitude of the RAWs you could generate HDR from a single clip by essentially "baking out" your footage at say 3 different levels, and using your favorite tone-mapper (I like Photoshop) to generate your images frame by frame (simple automations or batch processing).

I would love it if someone with One could run some tests.
(or send me some files and I'll run some)

pH

[Gavin Greenwalt]

But things are gonna be baked-in in the RGB mode.

Not necessarily. It'll be more baked but there is nothing to prevent RED from outputting an unprocessed RGB image. Any LUTs applied to the footage would be on top of a flat RGB anyway so you might as well encode it as metadata.

[ScottyC]

now, of course - you could use even that for time-lapse motion. some have speculated there will be HDR video capabilities... I doubt it very much so.

I doubt the motion idea too. I thought about this a few years ago when I started playing with HDR photo's. I thought it would be cool to capture HDR motion, but there are some levels that technology hasn't reached yet. One is that I don't believe a true HDR monitor exists yet. Though the advancement of LED LCD's and 120Hz capabilities are bringing home theater to a new level, this still isn't a true HDR monitor. Two, the processing of motion HDR would kill your computer. I mean, processing HDR photos can really work out your processors... so quantify that by a large amount of images captured through motion and well, you get the idea. And lastly, the final result is still going to be down-converted to an image with less bit-depth, etc... so HDR motion is like massive overkill, no matter how important the project.

I am curious about the ethernet data transfer. I heard there were some connectivity issues with this type of connection before. I think I read this when I was researching a DROBO disk storage device. It had the ethernet connection, but people mentioned issues that needed to be worked out with that. ?? IDK, maybe safe to just plan for a SSD reader.

And given the info about the Canon lenses and capable line/mm resolution... I am starting to lean towards the 8X fixed after a year of wanting the 2/3" cinema with a Canon mount. At least I know what I am getting into before it's too late!

[Rick Burnett]

For capturing HDR motion, at low frame rates, why couldn't you just not reset after the read and say read three times in a row?

I don't see why this wouldn't be possible. I think it would be hit or miss for awhile until people understood what kind of settings they would need, but I don't see why it wouldn't be doable. Getting the right lens speed will be important, but it would be pretty cool.

Essentially, at the minimum, you'd get three frames in a row at different exposures and then reset. Given the scarlet can do 150 frames per second, this should NOT be a hard thing to do in camera. Now, seeing anything ON the camera in HDR is not gonna happen, but in post is where you work the magic like you do with a still.

Sound pretty cool to me!

Rick