POLL: Scarlet Frame Overlay

[paulherrin]

I for one would really love to see some kind of frame overlay feature in the scarlet system. this would be very helpful for many things, especially for me doing visual effects work. Right now it's only planned for the Epic, but if it's pleasing to the RED guys, I would really be appreciative of this feature.

here's some previous threads on it...

http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=36632

http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13291

http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=36409


EDIT: RECAP

Okay, here's a quick recap of all the suggestions/discussion:

This thread started about a year ago :) in response to Ted talking about the Epic frame overlay feature, and saying it might be a possibility for Scarlet as well, if there was interest. There certainly is some interest...

The purpose of the discussion as I see it is twofold.

A. Suggestions for implementation/use (Epic/Scarlet)
and
B. Desirability to have those same features in the 2/3" models

DESCRIPTION: Frame Overlay is the ability to, well, overlay a frame over the monitor feed. It could be anything from a toggle between frames, to some kind of blending mode overlay. It is used for different types of continuity between shots. We'll talk more about specific uses below.

A. Suggestions For Implementation

Load frames to temporary, built in memory on camera.
or
Load frames from CF card/SSD, WiFi/Ethernet etc.

Choose previous frames
and/or
Load TIFF/JPEG etc. (this one is big)

Toggle/Wipe/Opacity/Blending



Suggestions for Use

Matching (composition/lighting/etc.) old footage, shot by others.

Matching storyboards/pre-vizualization/artwork.

Shot matching for storytelling purposes.

Non-linear shooting, matching shot to shot (Continuity).

Reshoots, Pickups, etc.

Extended Dissolves.

Matching Horizon/Perspective Lines.

Returning to a location at different time/day where the shot needs to be the same. i.e. seasonal timelapse

Most Visual Effects shots.

Matching two takes without the use of a motion rig.

Matchmoving/Greenscreen shots.

Matching plates/artwork/matte paintings.

3D (for its unique DOF)


To be continued...



B. Desirability

This seems to be a very desirable feature on both Epic and Scarlet. The most essential use of it will likely be for visual effects work. It is highly foreseeable that the 2/3" models will be used for FX work, and 2nd Unit Photography. Also, the slightly deeper DOF and extremely small configuration makes them high candidates for Stereo3d work. Being small and cheap gives it a lot of advantages to be used in extreme conditions and for Special/Visual Effects. Not to mention lower budgeted productions. I'm getting a Scarlet Fixed and plan on doing some very intense VFX work with it.

FINE al coda

Hope that helps. Please let me know if you have any other suggestions, and/or corrections - anything that will make it more accurate or concise. Thank you!

I'll keep this first post updated, so it remains kinda sticky and easy to locate.

-paul

[Joseph Hutson]

I for one would really love to see some kind of frame overlay feature in the scarlet system. this would be very helpful for many things, especially for me doing visual effects work. Right now it's only planned for the Epic, but if it's pleasing to the RED guys, I would really be appreciative of this feature.

Anyone else like to chime in?

What gave you that idea? Good idear!

[paulherrin]

hahahaha... well i dunno! heh heh

[Scott Miller]

As a matter of fact we ere planning on trying to match some old footage from the '60 Olympics and he ability to overlay a frame from the original would be great.

[Joseph Hutson]

I would be able to use this feature when doing a dolly shot through space let's just say, in the summer and then if I wanted to come back to that same location later during the winter and make a cool time-lapse shot...

[Jeff Coatney]

It will be an essential tool, with many applications. I'm sure they'll include it.

[Pietro Impagliazzo]

I wonder why it was left out of Scarlet since it doesn't seem like a task that needs much processing power.

[Lauri Kettunen]

Yes, I find such a feature important in wildlife shooting.

[Eren Ozkural]

I've asked for this feature for quite some time. It's pretty important for the FX work I do and as Pietro mentioned it doesn't require a lot of processing power now does it?

I can't push for this feature to be included in the Scarlets enough. I hope RED make the correction. Hear us out guys :)

[Joseph Hutson]

Also, another reference is of course Jarred's post...

Heh heh previous scene frame overlay is in Epic :)

...which Ted is asked about in the podcast.