Tom, I would think this would be a nice feature on all the cameras. I think people are looking at the bigger cameras mainly for the resolution and sensor size/lens options, not the bells and whistles. But I do like bells and whistles.
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12-09-2009, 12:03 PM
Tom, I would think this would be a nice feature on all the cameras. I think people are looking at the bigger cameras mainly for the resolution and sensor size/lens options, not the bells and whistles. But I do like bells and whistles.
12-09-2009, 12:16 PM
I also requested this some thread ago, i'm surprised it was never included in a Red build. To me it's a no-brainer for Epic and Scarlet and even Red if that's possible. Not only do I want a frame from a previous take, i want custom graphics (so I can overlay a sketch of a composite or somethign). Also good for matte paintings, etc.
12-09-2009, 05:00 PM
Shawn, I also remember requesting this during development of the RedOne. I think this feature would present a powerful toolset which would further merge RED's integration into the pre and post stages of a movie. Accelerometers and lens data and all that stuff are great. But I'm one of those people who believes in "try get it right in-camera first", and the overlay feature would greatly help this.
12-09-2009, 05:25 PM
Would also love this feature.
And maybe go one step further: Make it possible to save the histogram to the memory, and overlay it (maybe as an outline) over the current histogram. Could be a powerful tool when trying to match shots in small crew situations.
12-09-2009, 05:34 PM
It would be a great feature, and I would love to see it included. But if it's not, you can solve it fairly easily with a thin piece of plexiglass from Home Depot, etc. You can place it on your monitor (velcro, etc), even the 2.8" outline the essential matching points with a wet erase marker, and then replace it when you need to match. You can then erase and reuse the plexi.
This is primarily a monitoring solution, and if the Scarlet can send this along the monitoring path, excellent. But it doesn't have to stop you from having this function, and cheaply, other ways.
Tim
12-09-2009, 05:40 PM
Yes please ! I've spoken to a bunch of my friends/peers about this function....they all love the idea and feel it would be extremely useful on set.
It's a very smart and fast way to enable the DP/Camera Op to instantly check:
-Blocking
-Eye Lines
-Continuity
-Matching Frames
-Lighting
-Special Effects
Also, it'd be great to embed the cameras metadata and settings into the frame grab itself and then offload to a usb thumb-drive. This way you could access these files at a later date on a different camera... perhaps the camera could even be programmed to re-read the metadata / settings from the screen grab and instantly set it to the camera.
12-09-2009, 09:41 PM
I would add my voice to those in favour of a feature like this across the lineup.
I would say, however, only being able to overlay other shots on the same card would be very limiting, and I hope that this is not how it is implemented. To be most useful, the feature would allow JPEGs to be overlaid, which are either stored on a CF or SD card, drive, etc, or uploaded via wifi or ethernet to a small internal buffer (which would only have to be ~30mB to store a good whack of JPEGS).
12-09-2009, 11:10 PM
Well said, Ace.Originally Posted by Ace
Tim - I like your style. Good tips.
12-09-2009, 11:12 PM
even being able to load in storyboard artwork would be cool.
(and I say all these things realizing how unreal these requests would be, to make to one of the larger camera companies and how cool it is that we have the joy of being able to voice our opinions to RED)
12-10-2009, 11:22 AM
haha no joke.
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