The new Mysterium-X sensor.
This showcases just how good the new sensor is "shooting the hard stuff". Thanks to Michael Cioni of LightIRON for the grading and posting.
Jim
http://www.lightirondigital.com/Ligh..._4K_STLLS.html
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The new Mysterium-X sensor.
This showcases just how good the new sensor is "shooting the hard stuff". Thanks to Michael Cioni of LightIRON for the grading and posting.
Jim
http://www.lightirondigital.com/Ligh..._4K_STLLS.html
Last edited by Jason Ramsey; 01-28-2010 at 10:27 PM. Reason: url fix
New ROCKETCINE-X posted here...
http://red.cachefly.net/redcinex/ROCKETcineX1740.zip (posted 2/8/2010)
Jim
Last edited by Jannard; 02-09-2010 at 10:20 PM. Reason: url fixed
Resolution 101
In the very near future we will see 4K delivery. No doubt about it. But who gets to play?
It seems obvious that Standard Definition is not High Definition. But is High Definition (720P and 1080P) able to scale to 4K? Not from where I sit. Pushing less than 2K up over 400% to "fit" a 4K delivery is exactly the same as pretending that SD is HD. It just isn't.
We will attempt to demonstrate exactly what we mean. I will add other cameras performance as we do the testing. But to begin with... let's start with the Canon 5D, which promises a 1080P output. While the file size is 1080P, the actual measured resolution is quite a bit less. So too is Bayer pattern resolution lower than the file size. RED 4K actually measures about 3.2K and 4.5K actually measures about 3.7K. The new EPIC 5K will measure a full 4K. For comparison, 35mm Film measures about 2.8K for ASA 500 stock and about 3.2K for ASA 100 stock... both from a 4K scan. Film resolves much less from a 2K scan... less than 2K.
Graeme has shot Zone Plates of the 5D, along with the new M-X sensor upgraded RED ONE. Here are the results.
M-X sensor (in red) and the Canon 5D (in black). The grey area is where the 5D2 provides either NO detail or corruption caused by aliasing. It really measures a "ragged" 1.4K horizontal resolution vs. about 3.7 for the Mysterium-X at 4.5K.
BTW... that is over 4 times more measured resolution.
3800x11630 = 6,194,000 measured resolution from 4.5K Mysterium-X sensor
1400x1080 = 1,512,000 measured resolution from the 5D
6,194,000 / 1,512,000 = 4.09 times more resolution
So... what measured resolution actually qualifies to be 4K delivery worthy? Same answer as what qualifies for HD. We know of no 1080P output camera that actually measures a full 1080P. There are varying degrees of uprezzing in every HD delivery. Some not much, some more. Same will apply to 4K delivery. The industry will decide.
We beg our customers to debayer RED footage at full resolution for final output. If you do your debayer at half-res, you throw away one of the primary advantages of RED... resolution. It will matter in the future.
Jim
Last edited by Jannard; 02-08-2010 at 02:49 PM.
Resolution 102
This is where we keep track of camera's actual resolution. This list will continue to grow as the tests are done.
Canon 5D- 1080P output. 1.4K of measured resolution (and if you look at the chart closely, you will agree that this number is generous)
Sony F35- 1080P output. 1.7K of measured resolution (much cleaner resolution than 5D)
RED ONE- 4K output. 3.2K measured resolution
RED ONE- 4.5K output. 3.7K measured resolution
EPIC- 5K output. 4K measured resolution
Film (ASA 100)- 4K scan. 3.2K measured resolution
Film (ASA 500)- 4K scan. 2.8K measured resolution
Last edited by Jannard; 03-02-2010 at 01:33 PM.
RED ONE HISTORY
"Bread Box"- March 2006
"Frankie"- Summer 2006
"Spike"- 1st working RED ONE, December 2006
2 Alpha cameras- April 2007
"Boris"- Used by Peter Jackson in "Crossing the Line"
"Natasha"- Used by Peter Jackson in "Crossing the Line"
8 Beta cameras- June 2007
"Penny"
"Bombay"- used on Ché (Guerilla)
"Mars"- used on Ché (Guerilla)
"Acapulco"
"Romeo"
"Juliet"
"Silk"
"Leo"
25 Pre-production cameras- August 2007
"Moscow"
"Shanghai"
"Beijing"- used on Ché (The Argentine)
"Paris"- used on Ché (The Argentine)
"Prague"
"London"
"Hollywood"
"Rome"
"Berlin"
"Tokyo"
"Sydney"
"Deadwood"
"Athens"
"Madrid"
"Chicago"
"Helsinki"
"Capetown"
"Dublin"
"New York"
"Seattle"
"Singapore"
"Casablanca"
"Montreal"
"Havana"
"Bangkok"
1st Production cameras delivered August 31, 2007
Serial #1-25
Jim
1... 2... 3...
Shooting a RED camera.
1. Set up your camera
Load latest firmware
Do a Black Shade Calibration (lens cap on, T22)
Format media (CF card, RED RAM, etc.)
(If you are renting a RED ONE, do a "restore settings" to clear any previous settings that may be left over from a previous job)
2. Set up your project.
Select a project size like 4K 2:1, 4K 16:9, 4K Quad HD, 4.5K 2.33:1, 3K 2:1, etc.
Select a project frame rate base like 23.976 (default), 24 or 25.
Select a color space like REDcolor (default) or RAW
3. Set ISO/ASA and exposure Do tests before your shoot!
Set camera White Balance (or better yet, shoot a MacBeth, grey card or other white reference in the scene and set WB in post).
Use your light meter
Use the camera exposure tools
• Check your histogram.
• Stay inside the "goal posts"- Noise floor (left) and clipping (right) in RAW with Build 30
• Check "RAW Check"- Noise floor (purple) and clipping (red) in RAW with Build 30.
• Check "barber pole"- RAW with Build 30.
• Check "stop lights"- RAW with Build 30.
• Use False Color
RECORD.
Last edited by Jannard; 02-28-2010 at 05:48 PM.
Size matters...
EPIC format sizes:
5120 x 2700 • 5K Full Frame
4800 x 2700 • 5K HD
5120 x 2560 • 5K 2:1
5120 x 2160 • 5K 2.37:1
4480 x 1920 • 4.5 Wide
4096 x 2304 • 4K 16:9
3840 x 2160 • 4K HD
4096 x 2048 • 4K 2:1
4096 x 1706 • 4K 2.4:1
3072 x 1728 • 3K 16:9
2880 x 1620 • 3K for HD
3072 x 1536 • 3K 2:1
3072 x 1280 • 3K 2.4:1
2048 x 1152 • 2K 16:9
2048 x 1024 • 2K 2:1
2048 x 853 • 2K 2.4:1
1920 x 1080 • 1080 HD
RED ONE Mysterium-X format sizes:
4480 x 1920 • 4.5 Wide
4096 x 2304 • 4K 16:9
3840 x 2160 • 4K HD
4096 x 2048 • 4K 2:1
3072 x 1728 • 3K 16:9
2880 x 1620 • 3K for HD
3072 x 1536 • 3K 2:1
2048 x 1152 • 2K 16:9
2048 x 1024 • 2K 2:1
1920 x 1080 • 1080 HD
4K anamorphic: 2816 x 2304
3K anamorphic: 2112 x 1728
2K anamorphic: 1408 x 1152
Last edited by Jannard; 04-08-2010 at 10:33 PM.
GRADING RED footage...
1st Choice. White Balance and grade native R3Ds in a system that supports the R3D SDK like Scratch, Pablo, Baselight, REDCINE-X, FCP, Color, Adobe CS4, Vegas, etc.
2nd Choice. After selecting the correct White Balance, output full range (REDlog or REDgamma) and full res debayer to DPX, TIFF or ProRes 444 from REDCINE-X/RED Rocket. Open output in 3rd party grading applications.
Jim
RESOLUTION REFERENCE...
Jim
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We are now taking orders for Stage 2 of the EPIC program.
http://epic.red.com
Jim
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