Cost of Scarlet

[Jason Ramsey]

2,750 - 2/3" Interchangeable Scarlet.
900 - 2.8" touch LCD
550 - REDMOTE
500 - Side CF Module
950 - Side Handle

So, for essentially the same stuff as a fixed Scarlet plus a side handle, the total comes out to 5,650 (plus battery, CF, and any necessary lens mount depending on Lens choice)

That leaves 4,350 for glass in the 10k range... That's 4 prime lenses, or a zoom, etc, etc... So, I'd say.... looks more than possible to be a sub 10K$ camera.

Later,
Jason

[David Mullen ASC]

Thanks for the feedback, everyone. I can see a lot of people have been busy with their calculators while counting their pennies...

[David Rasberry]

How you define under 10k is relevant too. Is this for the most basic out of the box working camera setup, or is it for a practical field production package with enough accessories like batteries and media to support a day's shooting? (not including other things like lighting and support).

[David Mullen ASC]

How you define under 10k is relevant too. Is this for the most basic out of the box working camera setup, or is it for a practical field production package with enough accessories like batteries and media to support a day's shooting? (not including other things like lighting and support).

For my purposes, it's a vague and arbitrary demarkation. You also have to factor that not everyone pays list prices for things in the real world.

[Joseph Hutson]

Though it's not necessarily "the camera", people also need to take into consideration the cost of media and longer lasting power solutions...

[Gavin Greenwalt]

How 'bout the S35 Scarlet for a little over $10K?

S35 Scarlet brain - $7000
2.8" LCD - $900
Side Handle (w/battery) - $950
Side CF module - $500
Nikon mount - $500
2x 8GB CF cards - $330
Nikon 50mm f1.8 lens - $120
TOTAL - $10,300

I don't even think including the CF Cards is necessary. Sure you need them, but you also need DV tapes/P2 Cards for other cameras that aren't included in the camera price.

Without media you're under $10k. You could even throw in a ridiculously cheap Nikon 55-200mm for an extra $50 but that would put you $20 over $10,020.

[Rick Burnett]

I think you can go wireless FF with the regular redmote as well, but probably not as nice to turn as a barrel dial. Wonder if you could retrofit some aftermarket dial on to it?

[Gary Paul Walker]

Thanks for the feedback, everyone. I can see a lot of people have been busy with their calculators while counting their pennies...

Counting pennies, finding they dont add up correctly, then plan to rob the local bank....

[Joseph Hutson]

then plan to rob the local bank....

ya better do it quickly before that runs out too.

[Roberto Lequeux]

I'd go with a fixed. Then buy a second 2/3" removable, or a S35, but...

For those of you talking 2/3" non-fixed, I am going to assume that you are obviously concerned with cinema use. So I'd look at getting a Red Mote Pro, for wireless FF! : ) It could work for 10k if you got it with a Canon Mount and the 10-22mm zoom. The difference from RedMote to Pro RedMote is $1,200, but now you could throw it on a steady, crane, Fig Rig, anything that benefits from wireless FF!!

This package doesn't really work though. It isn't realistic. A battery pack would be necessary... $10k is not enough.

$2,750 --- 2/3" Removable Brain
$1,750 --- Base I/O Module
$1,750 --- Pro Red Mote
$1,600 --- 5" Touchscreen
$950 ----- Side Handle
$500 ----- Canon Mount
$800 ----- Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5
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$10,100.-

I think the 5" screen is sort of a must, if you expect to have nothing else.

However I am not familiar with the FOV from a 10-22mm on 2/3". The obvious worry is that 10mm will be prohibitive, not just from being able to work in tight spaces but also from being wide enough for some if the stuff that you'd use wireless FF for. When on a S35 steady you are super-wide to 28mm, give or take by preference. So I wonder how 10mm translates.

Of course the option would be to pick one RMP. However, one focal length would be hard. The only way to get more range with more focal lengths would be to drop the Pro RedMote for the normal one, which frees up an other $1,200. With that and the $800 from (not buying) the Canon and the $500 from (not buying) the electronic mount, you could get two RMPs... like the 6mm and the 16mm I suppose.

The non-wireless alternative is likely to give you the ability to shoot night-vision stuff. But the Canon zoom is a great S35 lens if you plan to get a S35 brain. Also, it should be plenty fast with this insane sensitivity Red is packing into M-X.

Still, this would be a killer package too, and $600 cheaper which means you are $450 from a third T1.5 RMP or $750 from being able to use it for more than a few hours and have to wait for your only small battery to re-charge... ;P

$2,750 --- 2/3" Removable Brain
$1,750 --- Base I/O Module
$550 ----- Red Mote
$1,600 --- 5" Touchscreen
$950 ----- Side Handle
$950 ----- 6mm T1.5 RMP
$950 ----- 16mm T1.5 RMP
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$9,500.-