EPIC missed spec...

[Brad Webb]

I think everyone missed the REAL point of this thread... They have working prototypes, and the only thing that isn't perfect is that it takes 8 measly seconds longer to boot up.

[Gary Paul Walker]

Those 10-15 seconds for booting can easily be filled with some other task anyway.. so it wouldnt be much of a concern for me.

If you're doing something where you really need that time between turning the camera on and shooting , you have to think
a) why dont you just turn the camera on earlier
b) maybe you should look at something else for the project
c) you have unrealistic expectations about technology....

[Martin Weiss]

I can't find any proof that the production cameras will have a significant improvement on battery life

Jim:

The ASIC does lots of stuff... heavy processing with less power

Not unlike the change from tube-based to resistor radios to integrated circuits. Each time they got better, smaller, lighter and less power hungry.

smaller batteries = less power then a larger similar designed battery.

That is the beauty of the flexibility that Epic/Scarlet has. Get a battery module and use large V-lock batteries. Or have a battery belt connected to your camera.

You might also want to look into a back-saving EasyRig for your R1. Personally, if I were to shoot a wedding on a R1, I would use sticks, and just occasionally go handheld.

Would also like to hear more about the proposed sleep mode.

[Brad Webb]

Brad,

It's an open forum for feedback. They wouldn't allow responses if they couldn't handle it.
If you are referring to me, I am not crying about it, if you asked me if I would take it at twice the boot time of an R1 I would in a heart beat, its not ideal, but I'd make it work.

However, you can't blame me for being interested in trying to get the best possible product for all the 'proposed' applications.

It's an open forum for feedback, not for bitching and moaning. This thread is worse than what happened when it was announce there was going to be a slight increase in the price of the Scarlet. People acted like red lied to them and how dare Red not give the damn thing away for free.


ps.. I'm not personally attacking you Aaron. You were quite reasonable in your concern.

[David Walls II]

So .... in case everyone was stuck on the 15 second thing ... RED HAS PROTOTYPES CURRENTLY BOOTING!

A very good sign.

Right on. This is the best bad news I've ever gotten.

[Brad Webb]

I'll let Louis CK explain my feelings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!videos...&v=8r1CZTLk-Gk

[Stuart English]

re hot swap.. we offer REDVOLT and REDVOLT XL batteries. Let's discuss XL.

You can insert two REDVOLT XL batteries into the rear battery module.

Once the first is depleted, the camera automatically switches over to the second battery.

So now you remove the first battery and insert a third. Same for the second battery and a fourth etc..

So there really is no fundamental reason to power down.....

[Gavin Greenwalt]

I can't stand all the complaints about the Red boot up time. Film guys are always bragging about no boot up time. Well they forget all the time they spend loading reels.

Difference being on a film camera you only reload reels between takes anyway and the camera can sit almost indefinitely ready to shoot. So it's not entirely an apples to apples. Then again large batteries are the order of the day when it comes to needing constant readiness.

But I've been on a lot of trips where even the canon 5 second startup time would cause a clenched jaw. You can't leave your camera on for an entire 6 hour drive.

In contrast my film camera is ready instantly and always has film ready to go. And it can be reloaded when you're certainly nothing interesting is around.

Not saying 10s is a problem. But there is a difference between a loaded and ready camera and one which is off with a 10s startup time.

[Stephen Matthews]

I shot a wedding recently and when I missed or didn't get a moment or that shot it was not due to start up but me. I know this is just my perspective but getting the shot had little to do with 20 sec or whatever, and a whole lot to do with being in the right place at the right time and knowing what to look for.

PS. it was my first wedding and despite my lack of experience I ended up getting what was needed.

[Aleksandar Colancevski]

I could enjoy 10 minutes boot up just to have MX today.
10 seconds...ha