From hdforindies: Want more stills from a Red? I got more stills from a Red

[R Fogg]

More stills from the offhollywood shoot posted
http://www.hdforindies.com/2007/09/w...-got-more.html

[Roberto B]

odd.. that red footage.. what did it happen on your red alert offhollywood?..

[Ralph Oshiro]

Maybe I'm blind but . . . they shot SHINY WHITE cars in DIRECT SUN, and I don't see any loss of detail in the highlights.

[Craig W. Bickerstaff]

Maybe I'm blind but . . . they shot SHINY WHITE cars in DIRECT SUN, and I don't see any loss of detail in the highlights.

I saw those cars and I gotta say they just looked underexposed to me.

[Fix]

It may look underexposed, but take them into post and play with the curvs.. what you get is a powerfull good looking image (if you do it right..). Expose like this with HVX200 and you will have mosquito running all over after tweaking. These carshoots can be manipulated and look like film with ease, They have no burnouts and tons of info in the lower curves.

Its kind of ironic. Jim made a post about this for a while ago but he dident meantion to much about grading. He did warn every rockies though. This is a professional camera, and with it you have to do alot of grading to make good result. ALOT of footage from Red will look like crap in the time to come. I have a strong feeling that many (of all the thousands) who bought this camera will not be satisfied. Not becasue of the camera but because of lack of skill.

IMO I have seen enough. You can fake 35mm analog quality with a REDONE. Thats my juice.

[Álex Montoya]

Well, I don't know.

Take a look at this one.

http://www.hdforindies.com/uploaded_...t/Images/9.jpg

It looks properly exposed and there is detail in the car AND in the tiny asphalt bit that is in shadow (bottom of the image, a bit to the left).

TO ME, that's smucking amazing.

[indierider]

here are the facts.
I bracketed a test shot first thing when we got there. we brought it up on a macbook pro and knowing that we are now shooting rawfiles and going into scratch at offhollywood, we went with the 1 stop underexposed. I was playing it safe. I wanted to hold the sky and the car because I knew that with all these white cars on the road I really needed to have the sky there to cut them out, if the sky clipped the white the cars would get lost. I had a new never shot with camera, a bunch of professional stunt cars drivers and a profession Camera car company all working for free on a holiday weekend. I wasn't about to risk over-exposing anything. If we had had the histogram working it would of been better exposured for sure. When shooting shiny white things in film you normally underexpose i went with what i know, I know more now, and i have learned so much from Mike Curtis over the last week. Thanks for the knowledge mike cant wait to work together in the future with you. Sorry about the underexposure everyone but the fact of the matter is this...we are gonna have a great piece when this thing is cut. I'm loving the grading people are doing so far Devildodo's burnout pic is my favorite so far.
Paul

[Kevin Halverson]

Well, I don't know.

Take a look at this one.

http://www.hdforindies.com/uploaded_...t/Images/9.jpg

It looks properly exposed and there is detail in the car AND in the tiny asphalt bit that is in shadow (bottom of the image, a bit to the left).

TO ME, that's smucking amazing.

It is a very telling image. Look at the shadow angle under the car, this is the mid day sun and its not like they have 100 yards of silk overhead, this is the worst of the worst conditions.

The amazing thing is doesn't look like absolute crap, in fact it looks really good.

WOW!

[Seung Han]

Two simple things you can do in Photoshop with little knowledge of cc grading (which I have very little) to simply snap the picture out of the raw flat look that has been mentioned before after you download the TIFF file.

1) Set 'Auto Levels'

or

2) Set colorspace to 'Adobe 1998' (Jim's suggestion)
This one does not change the data on the file.

Me, personally, like many others, am pretty impressed by how malleable these images are. You can really punish them, and they hold up extremely well. I am not a tech person but I think it is evident if you compare these images with other images from digital cameras that there is a ton of information on them...ready to be manipulated to be like the image in your mind's eye :usd:

[Mark L. Pederson]

tomorrow morning we shoot fashion models on a real set, on a real commercial for an asian cosmetics company as a TEST - side by by side with 35mm - high end commercial - well lt - well production designed - HOT models .... I will try to get permission to post a few 4K TIFFS on Monday -