EPIC Dynamic Range...

[Roberto Lequeux]

Those are very different numbers from Emmanuel's 190MB/s... well, I better cool it and just wait for the RED team to share.

It would be great if RED Rocket could do the step! But isn't it already maxed out and purpose build for debayer and other metadata functions? Unless they already had lossless mostly cooked up before Rocket's release.

Ok, enough spamming for me... To the quiet cave!

[Deanan]

He said "onboard SSD module", which I take to mean another module that accepts a form of SSD media. Hey, you know, like those RED MAG 128GB thingies we've all seen in the renders. So I'm ASSuming, you record to those, pop them off/out of the camera and plug it into the correct module on your RED STATION and away you go.

Correct, REDMAG 1.8" and it goes into the RED Station 1.8" slot.
Not internal to the camera...

[Deanan]

Filmout with VFX = RC250 (read: most want as uncompressed as possible)

If you automatically think you need max redcode for everything you'll bury yourself in data unnecessarily. You'd be surprised how much data can be wasted on visually inconsequential data by trying to make something mathematically lossless.

[Nick Shaw]

Those are very different numbers from Emmanuel's 190MB/s... well, I better cool it and just wait for the RED team to share.

Sorry, went back and corrected my maths again. Not with it this morning! I'll show my workings this time, so people can see if they agree.

5120x2560 = 13107200 pixels per frame
*12 (bits/pixel) /8 (bits/byte) = 19660800 bytes per frame
*24 (fps) = 471859200 bytes per second
/(1024*1024) = 450 Mbytes per second

Which is 180MB/s when compressed 2.5:1

Apologies to Emmanuel. My numbers are quite close to his.

[Hrvoje Simic]

[David Battistella]

That all said, I hear ya on the "some people". I'll buy my next car with his obsession with uncompressed :)

I'm already reading about DP's not wanting to stake their career on an M sensor now and in TO, every "new" production starting up "needs" to shoot M-X. 6000M sensors out there but everybody seems to need M-X now because, you know, BECAUSE!!! :)

That said, I do not want to take this thread off topic.

[Subhadip Sen]

Am I wrong in estimating 128GB SSD will store about 11 minutes of 5K footage? So, a 128GB SSD is our new 1000' of film. Except, of course, it can be reused.

[JD Holloway]

[QUOTE=Vico Martin;57505213.5 Stops sounds like Graeme push the noise floor to saturn :-)QUOTE]

More like kicked it to Satan.

...Satan is in the noise floor...

[JD Holloway]

I'm already reading about DP's not wanting to stake their career on an M sensor now and in TO, every "new" production starting up "needs" to shoot M-X. 6000M sensors out there but everybody seems to need M-X now because, you know, BECAUSE!!! :)

That said, I do not want to take this thread off topic.

No kidding DB, production ramping up as we speak and I'm feeling this.

[Radoslav Karapetkov]

i'm guessing its part of the reason why the epic's cost is spectulativly so much more than a scarlet, but ofcourse that would just be another speculation;-)

Yeah, I guess it requires serious processing power. But who knows? For example, I haven't noticed a much higher load on the CPU while encoding lossless audio. But RAW motion pictures are probably a lot different to compress. Anyway, if we could have 24-25fps@3K true lossless on the 2/3" cams that would be sweet.

It can't get better than that. Literally.