Avid native R3D support...

[Bruce Allen]

how to monitor the davinci on mac?

I'm sure BlackMagic Designs will be very happy to sell you their cheap desktop cards as monitoring options :)

but both doesnt have the rocket enabled for playback perfomance, so what are the limits?

IMHO, RED Rocket is a temporary fix. I talked to my friend at nVidia last week (on the direct compute team) - he was surprised that they don't have realtime GPU decode yet. And with a dual 6-core 3.3ghz Nehalem - CPUs should be able to decode faster than realtime the moment someone gets some decent multithreaded code going.

BTW, in a few months' time - do you really think Red will sell a 2/3rds "consumer" Scarlet - and tell everyone to buy a $4000 card to watch it in realtime in full quality?

If they do, they will get hammered in the reviews because reviewers and consumers won't have a rocket. They will try to play it on their desktop and will say "we can only view it at half res debayer, and it's grainy"

In order to avoid this, I am certain RED will make sure their code is multithreaded soon.

To me RED Rocket is a cool thing for people who want to monitor at 4K. For normal finishing, HDTV resolutions, it should not be necessary.

So yes, I do not see a need for RED Rocket if you have more than 6 months' patience.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com

[BradWright]

I hope Avid can find a "Bono" out there to keep them in business like Palm. They are nearly Bankrupt. They have less than a years worth of cash at the current burn rate. Great products, but they need a positive cash flow or big cash infusion.

[Cüneyt Kaya]

I hope Avid can find a "Bono" out there to keep them in business like Palm. They are nearly Bankrupt. They have less than a years worth of cash at the current burn rate. Great products, but they need a positive cash flow or big cash infusion.

guess MC5 should help

[Cüneyt Kaya]

I'm sure BlackMagic Designs will be very happy to sell you their cheap desktop cards as monitoring options :)


IMHO, RED Rocket™ is a temporary fix. I talked to my friend at nVidia last week (on the direct compute team) - he was surprised that they don't have realtime GPU decode yet. And with a dual 6-core 3.3ghz Nehalem - CPUs should be able to decode faster than realtime the moment someone gets some decent multithreaded code going.

BTW, in a few months' time - do you really think Red will sell a 2/3rds "consumer" Scarlet - and tell everyone to buy a $4000 card to watch it in realtime in full quality?

If they do, they will get hammered in the reviews because reviewers and consumers won't have a rocket. They will try to play it on their desktop and will say "we can only view it at half res debayer, and it's grainy"

In order to avoid this, I am certain RED will make sure their code is multithreaded soon.

To me RED Rocket™ is a cool thing for people who want to monitor at 4K. For normal finishing, HDTV resolutions, it should not be necessary.

So yes, I do not see a need for RED Rocket™ if you have more than 6 months' patience.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com

georgous, hopefully you are right

[M Most]

This is awesome.

I can all creative editing in Media Composer, directly importing R3Ds. I get the best creative editing toolset, most reponsive trim tool, etc.

For finishing, I go to a $999 DaVinci for picture and bring into Pro Tools LE (with 7.1 surround add on). What more do I want?

People with the talent to do all of those considerably different things well.

[Bruce Allen]

People with the talent to do all of those considerably different things well.

I have the talent, and know other people who can fill in my gaps in skill, so I have that covered.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com

[Blair S. Paulsen]

FWIW Bruce and a number of others on this forum do have the broad skill sets that can take advantage of the porting of higher end tools to the desktop environment. That said, Mike makes an important point about talent and highly developed specialized skills. Like Bruce, I farm out specific tasks to top practitioners and do the rest myself. I think it is important to note that properly managed the new school workflows on commodity hardware can yield very high quality results, but they can also go horribly wrong. Note the value of high quality calibrated monitoring is not to be underestimated.

I still think that in post the old saw; better, faster, cheaper - pick two still applies. That said, we are entering an era where the talent/capital equation in post world is shifting more towards talent than credit lines.

Cheers - #19

[Michael Kontaxis]

Any chance we'll see this in Final Cut Pro soon?

[Rainer Fritz]

Michael can you please say a word about the tearing problem when working specially in fullscreen playback mode only via graphics card. For me which is only working filebased is a mojo dx not really a must.... would be great if this is resolved in MC5 as well....

[Joe Carney]

Talking to both an AVID guy and Grant Petty from BMD, AVID is opening up and offering an SDK for broader 3rd party support. Matrox is just the beginning. Been a good day at NAB today.