Finishing In Avid or FCP

[Jessie Murray]

I have a 10 minute project shot on RED of course, converted to Avid 1080P DNx 36 8bit to edit on Avid, and now we need to finish it at full resolution. This is my first time working with RED and would love it if someone could walk me through the process. We do not have a tape of the material, all the original RED files are on a drive. I was talking to some people who suggested decomposing the sequence in it's own bin, but then another person said that with RED you would have to reconvert the files to hi-res quicktime and re-import those files... and since quicktimes don't recognize the in and outs you want to batch capture, Avid will just capture the entire quicktime file which will mean days of converting and re-importing? Someone also suggested bringing it all into FCP to finish. But yeah, if someone could literally dumb it all down as much as possible and help me out, I will be eternally grateful and if you're lucky I may send you cookies.

[Tom.Wong]

by finish, if you meaning ONLINING the footage there are a great deal of materials on the Avid website you can use, including a monkey extract route, i believe clipfinder, metafuze, etc. What are your goals, are you finishing in HD, or are you finishing in 4k, etc?

[Greg Huson]

I have a 10 minute project shot on RED of course, converted to Avid 1080P DNx 36 8bit to edit on Avid, and now we need to finish it at full resolution. This is my first time working with RED and would love it if someone could walk me through the process. We do not have a tape of the material, all the original RED files are on a drive. I was talking to some people who suggested decomposing the sequence in it's own bin, but then another person said that with RED you would have to reconvert the files to hi-res quicktime and re-import those files... and since quicktimes don't recognize the in and outs you want to batch capture, Avid will just capture the entire quicktime file which will mean days of converting and re-importing? Someone also suggested bringing it all into FCP to finish. But yeah, if someone could literally dumb it all down as much as possible and help me out, I will be eternally grateful and if you're lucky I may send you cookies.

avid.com/red

Where are you located, and how soon do you need this work done? The best current method- at least from what we've tried- is Monkey extract for an all-Avid workflow. Read the step-by-step on their site (click on their sponsor billboard when it comes up, or google them) We were a very early monkey user - and it made finishing entirely on Avid very practical.


However, media composer V5 (which is really media composer version... what... 17?) will read .R3Ds directly - and it ships in June. You would simply decompose and relink, in theory, pointing to the R3d media instead of the DNX 36.

PM me if you're in LA, and not in a huge hurry to do this online. Better yet, email direct, Greg (at) SecretHQ.com

[Greg Huson]

Of course Avid is limited to 1080x1920 HD - you'll need to go to another system if you want anything other than that. I'm sure there are other finishing methods- I bet you could even do the final picture entirely in COLOR, if want to torture yourself, and you didn't do any VFX (but still limited to 2k.)

check out Monkey extract - they explain the process pretty well.

[nigelsmith]

Check out Jamie Parry's solution on this thread:
http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=43597
Works a treat, so long as you used redcine-x to create the original dNXHD and ALE files.

[M Forrest]

Of course Avid is limited to 1080x1920 HD - you'll need to go to another system if you want anything other than that. I'm sure there are other finishing methods- I bet you could even do the final picture entirely in COLOR, if want to torture yourself, and you didn't do any VFX (but still limited to 2k.)

check out Monkey extract - they explain the process pretty well.

Easiest method by far, send an AFE to Avid DS, open the AFE and relink to the original .R3D files. By far the most complete and fluid workflow from Avid to Avid. Plus, you can indeed finish in HD, 2K or 4K.

[Dane W]

Any suggestions on how to do this process if the .R3D files were transcoded in Metafuze at DNx 36, and the online is being done on a Symphony at DNx 115? DS is not an option on this job.

Any help would be much appreciated.