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    Download "Die Mannequin" movie in HD 1920x1080 directly at

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    The clip looks great. Very encouraging! Was this all tweeked in Red Alert or did you do anything else while in after effects?[/QUOTE]

    All grading done in Red Alert on the LCD. Be very careful, the way it looks in Red Alert is very different from how it looks in FCP / AFTEREFFECTS. Im sure this is because Red Alert is in Beta and has no CRT monitoring output yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deanan View Post

    What you're seeing as underexposure is really more to do with
    how one rates and processes raw. What settings are you using
    to process the footage you shot at 320?


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    Meter scene using incident meter at 320 ISO as I would with Film
    Meter says to shoot at T4 at 320 ISO. Shoot test with subject
    camera set to 320 ISO lens set to T4. Image is almost black on camera LCD (my only live viewing option) I understand this is fixed now.
    Open footage in Red Alert using settings for REC709. Looks way too dark. Change setting to LOG looks better but still too dark.
    So I just rated the red ISO at 100 instead of 320 and the images looked great. I had no clipping in the whites of the skin tone at all and images are grain free.

    This week I plan to shoot some tests using grey cards and evalute the images back at my post shot in one of the DI suites using calibrated HD CRT monitors.
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    Is the rolling shutter an issue that can be fixed in upcoming firmware revisions or is it simply a limitation of the camera design?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Bachli View Post
    Meter scene using incident meter at 320 ISO as I would with Film
    Meter says to shoot at T4 at 320 ISO. Shoot test with subject
    camera set to 320 ISO lens set to T4. Image is almost black on camera LCD (my only live viewing option) I understand this is fixed now.
    Open footage in Red Alert using settings for REC709. Looks way too dark.
    It sounds like a setting might be wrong somewhere because it should
    look correct in RedAlert. The new build you should have gotten today
    fixes the dark LCD.

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    Thank you for posting this. The motion looks fine and the shallow-focus is nice. But in my opinion, based on this example, any strobe light is going to look quite "wrong" given the way the camera shutter is currently working. Even outside of a music show, many live events have camera strobes going off all the time.
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    "Check out the site. File is 18megs 10sec long. Shot with 25mm Ziess HS prime."

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    that footage is very nice!

    Would a 10 mm Ziess HS prime given you a fish bowl look?
    or just result in a little wider than the 25 mm?

    was it tough focusing at 4k that close?
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    Is the rolling shutter an issue that can be fixed in upcoming firmware revisions or is it simply a limitation of the camera design?
    It's the way the camera works. It can't be changed, but I don't think it's a big problem. Don't use flashes in your music videos!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Videoteque73 View Post
    It's the way the camera works. It can't be changed, but I don't think it's a big problem. Don't use flashes in your music videos!!!
    That's a fairly simplistic fix, TBH. There are plenty of situations when you can't really control this and, quite frankly, not using flashes in a music video? Really? :)
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    This explains the clipping of the gun fire in the "Crossing the Line"...when I watched it frame by frame I noticed it but when watching real time with sound fx etc you really dont notice as much.

    In this music video clip I noticed it right away even though I really enjoyed this clip Marc, some of my favorite stuff I have seen so far. Look forward to seeing more!

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