Moving to larger PC.. Help and thoughts

[Steve Cee]

[QUOTE=Bruce Allen;621195]Hey Jay



Also IMHO Premiere just isn't responsive as an Avid and you waste a lot of time doing certain tasks.

I use both on a PC and PPro CS5 with 24 gigs on an overclocked 980x is clearly more responsive then the Avid. It's not even close.

Although I'm on a PC and not a Mac so I wouldn't know if this makes a difference...

[Bruce Allen]

I use both on a PC and PPro CS5 with 24 gigs on an overclocked 980x is clearly more responsive then the Avid. It's not even close.

Although I'm on a PC and not a Mac so I wouldn't know if this makes a difference...

We are probably doing different tasks regularly then.

BTW, totally agree - overclocked 980x is to me the sweet spot - much rather have 6 very fast cores than 12 slow ones for good interactive editing performance.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com

[Steve Cee]

Future of SSDs...240 gig available July 4th. The only downside is that because they are raided there is no trim support yet. But if you are on a Mac there is no trim period.

Once you can link these puppies together I think you will see large enough capacities for editing feature length stuff. Then just back them up to a regular hardrive.

The great thing is there is no Sata bottleneck because you are directly connecting them to pci express.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3788/o...dable-pcie-ssd

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid...e=expert&pid=1

[Randall Nott]

Hey Jay,
Hang on to your nvidia 470 (forget the 285). They've officially released the cuda 3.1 drivers, officially supporting CS5 GPU accelleration.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-wi...ql-driver.html

The unofficial "rumor" from Adobe was that the CS5 update to officially include 470 cards wouldn't be far behind the driver release.

The same unofficial source said the 480 would still be stuck in the lab for a while.

[jake blackstone]

Some of you may remember I was going to move to MAC cause it had Divinci, and I thought, since it can also boot windows, I have nothing to lose..

I don't want to highjack this thread and someone may already had mentioned it earlier.
If not, I just would like to remind, that Resolve also runs on Linux, very well I might add. So, you don't a Mac in order to run Resolve. And yes, of coarse it ist hen a much more expensive proposition, $49k more expensive to be exact.
That's it, carry on...

[David Birdy]

This link looks very interesting for an "off the shelf" solution.
Mount your 470 and attach an E-SATA storage device plus your favorite software All for under 4K including software.... but still No 1K resolve option..

http://www.frys.com/product/6058398?...H:MAIN_RSLT_PG


Dave

[Jay A. Kelley]

Leave it to Bruce to fuck with my world....



He brings up a good point in regards to compatibility. When I shoot for clients, a lot of them use FCP. I do NOT use any MAC stuff in my closed loop productions, but that does not mean I don't use MAC.. Clients want stuff all the time from there.

As for Davinci, sigh... That's a painful issue.. I REALLY want Davinci, but I am still trying to figure out the damn workflow here.

If only color finesse had power windows, I would be fine with them.. As it is now, the only way to accomplish that would be using After Effects, and I am not completely against that if I can get it running well enough.

I dunno.. At this point, I am considering pulling some things off the "monster PC" and getting a decent mac as well.

One way or the other, I need to upgrade.. I'll keep people informed.

Jay

[Hans von Sonntag]

Leave it to Bruce to fuck with my world....



He brings up a good point in regards to compatibility. When I shoot for clients, a lot of them use FCP. I do NOT use any MAC stuff in my closed loop productions, but that does not mean I don't use MAC.. Clients want stuff all the time from there.

As for Davinci, sigh... That's a painful issue.. I REALLY want Davinci, but I am still trying to figure out the damn workflow here.

If only color finesse had power windows, I would be fine with them.. As it is now, the only way to accomplish that would be using After Effects, and I am not completely against that if I can get it running well enough.

I dunno.. At this point, I am considering pulling some things off the "monster PC" and getting a decent mac as well.

One way or the other, I need to upgrade.. I'll keep people informed.

Jay

Jay,

I have both and I need both, neither one is better. I run a HP Z800 with a Nivdia 5800/SDI and it's pretty fast with a very affordable ARECA SAS raid. It's a dependable workstation for Resolve, Scratch or SpeedGrade (that's what I use it for). We also run CS5 on it and the new PremierPro runs lightning fast on it, swallowing literally anything you are throwing at it, including DPX and CineForm.

But we also need Apple Hardware for Smoke on Mac and the tons of ProRes files that enter our place. FCP is still one of the two big NLEs and many, many use it although we have less and less use for it.

I rather invest into good software than into expensive bleeding edge hardware. Hardware is so quickly out-dated. Good software holds it's production value considerably longer. And the advantage of the latest computer developments are pretty small in a daily routine. That's at least what I found out in the last 15 years.

Hans

[Jay A. Kelley]

you use Resolve on a windows workstation? Please explain.

And thanks for the feedback.

Jay

[alexx_hg]

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... but when it comes to scrubbing through footage, it's not very fast due to Redcode decodes not being properly optimized for many cores?

www.boacinema.com

usually I´ve always open a reference monitor with a RGB Waveform. By chance I switched off the "gang to referencemonitor" and what a surprise, I can now scrub through the timeline without any hiccups...(2 year old core2Quad)

bg
alex