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    Switching to windowed 2K from 4K to allow for easier DOF in a run and gun scenario would make things a bit easier I guess.

    How problematic is that? Just switch to a different format option (with an assignable button maybe?) or does it require a reboot of the camera?

    Also that should not be a big problem in post ......... or is it?

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    Just switch it in the menu and I think you need to put in a new card or reformat your current one (I'm not entirely sure on that though)
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    Just switch it in the menu and I think you need to put in a new card or reformat your current one (I'm not entirely sure on that though)
    So... say you are using a red drive, and you already have an HOUR of footage recorded - you have to reformat just to do one shot in 2k? That can't be right!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Lohman View Post
    Just switch it in the menu and I think you need to put in a new card or reformat your current one (I'm not entirely sure on that though)
    I imagine changing cards is a temporary requirement right? I'm really hoping this will change eventually... that would be really bad for EFP / docs...
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    You set a card / drive to a project, that project contains resolution & project framerate (basically playback framerate, can be different from recording framerate).

    I will verify today if this works this way or not on my camera here...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Lohman View Post
    You set a card / drive to a project, that project contains resolution & project framerate (basically playback framerate, can be different from recording framerate).

    I will verify today if this works this way or not on my camera here...
    I know many people donīt want to hear that, especially the dps - but thats excellent from the point of view of the postproduction :)

    Having to deal with varispeed in regular media can be -totally- complicated in editorial, off-online, batch, vfx etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laguun View Post
    I know many people donīt want to hear that, especially the dps - but thats excellent from the point of view of the postproduction :)

    Having to deal with varispeed in regular media can be -totally- complicated in editorial, off-online, batch, vfx etc.
    I'm not worried about variable framerates. One project framerate setting per card makes total sense to me. Remember that project framerate doesn't have to equal shooting framerate...

    What worries me is having to switch cards if I just want to switch between 4K and 2K...
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    Quote Originally Posted by scienceguy_ae View Post
    I'm not worried about variable framerates. One project framerate setting per card makes total sense to me. Remember that project framerate doesn't have to equal shooting framerate...

    What worries me is having to switch cards if I just want to switch between 4K and 2K...
    To me, it seems more problematic having to change drives if you're just changing framerate, as I think here we're only talking about shooting frame rate. However, if that is a requirement, changing a CF card, or if shooting on a Drive, switching to CF, just for a few shots is probably not really a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by earthling View Post
    To me, it seems more problematic having to change drives if you're just changing framerate, as I think here we're only talking about shooting frame rate. However, if that is a requirement, changing a CF card, or if shooting on a Drive, switching to CF, just for a few shots is probably not really a problem.

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    I think Rob was pretty clear that the per-card framerate setting is for the project, not the framerate you're shooting at:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Lohman View Post
    You set a card / drive to a project, that project contains resolution & project framerate (basically playback framerate, can be different from recording framerate).
    In other words, say your project is 2K at 23.976. You set that as your project framerate when you format your cards, and then shoot at anywhere from 1-100fps (all on the same card if you want). The frames are just saved into the file as they're captured, and played back at the project framerate later (23.976).

    I can't think of any occasion I'd want to change project framerate mid-card. I don't see it as an issue at all...
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    Project frame rate maybe not, but imagine an interview where the subject deceides to get up and do something else - and you switch from 4K to 2K widowed because your shooting wide open and canīt predict its movements.

    I wonder how this changes the lens characteristics though....

    Ahm,.... windowed that is.....

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