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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce Allen View Post
    So, how easy is it to remove the word BOMB?

    Seriously, this is extremely important. So... is the lettering raised? Indented? Can it be sanded off? Will this void your warranty?
    Well to put this concern into perspective. Don't panic. I have flown with a Bomb EVF as both carry on and checked luggage into and out of LAX at least 8 times this summer and have had no problems with TSA at all. My advice is to not hide the EVF, not gaffer tape or sand off the "Bomb" letters... just present it as normal carry on luggage and if asked what it is tell them that it is an an electronic viewfinder for a camera. i.e tell the truth.

    Security teams are trained to look for the unusual, not the obvious. They may swab it to test for explosives but they do that to electronics anyway.
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    Nice packed EVF and I like it.

    Also it is not recommended to hide anything at a luggage check point on airport.

    If they ask you something you should just nicely describe and explain it to them everything even in details.

    Last time I had a standard photo camera equipment and woman who screened my bags was watching it on monitor a bit longer.

    Then she asked me about something that was one big Manfrotto clamp probably that she didn't see it before.

    Also everybody should understand better their kind of job.
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    lol who would label a bomb "bomb" anyhow?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin Nguyen View Post
    lol who would label a bomb "bomb" anyhow?
    Nobody.

    BUT if your job is to check for bombs and you don't check the thing with "bomb" written on it, you're gonna look like a real idiot if it blows up, aren't you?

    Do YOU want to explain in the resulting court case why you didn't check the thing with "bomb" written on it?

    Sorry to derail this - but this was the first info I heard on the final size of the "bomb" logo. It is supposedly smaller than before AND can be sanded off if I want to (gaffer tape was never an option). This makes me happy. Now I can consider buying it. Yaay.

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    50 % of the "reduser" hate it
    and 0% need bomb so...;)

    Whats wrong with PRO EVF?!

    But the case is a nice idea!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart English View Post
    Well to put this concern into perspective. Don't panic. I have flown with a Bomb EVF as both carry on and checked luggage into and out of LAX at least 8 times this summer and have had no problems with TSA at all. My advice is to not hide the EVF, not gaffer tape or sand off the "Bomb" letters... just present it as normal carry on luggage and if asked what it is tell them that it is an an electronic viewfinder for a camera. i.e tell the truth.

    Security teams are trained to look for the unusual, not the obvious. They may swab it to test for explosives but they do that to electronics anyway.
    Stuart, I'm just wondering if you happen to be of middle eastern descent?

    Because it makes a difference.

    You guys have made the thing, and named it. It is what it is. It will cause me trouble, but whatever.

    All this said, I have noted that dealing with gear is getting better in places that have the newer scanners. They can really look into the gear and satisfy themselves that it is not bomb-like more readily. I traveled to Seattle from DC and back recently with no questions whatsoever, despite carrying several bags packed to the gills with audio gear and a 7D. (I was working as sound recorder on that shoot.) Every single airport I went through on that trip had the newer scanners.
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    I have to assume that you could notify the airport security before and ask them what the best course of action should be to travel with it.

    These are extreme measures but if you are worried about being held up or don't need any hassles I have to assume this would work.

    Now this is very unnecessary considering a name change would fix it, but considering the amount of these that will be flying I'm sure it won't be a problem after a while. Like I said if you are worried there are measures you can take to ensure you won't have problems on the day you fly.

    Seems crazy but I still like the name and think it should stay
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Matthews View Post
    I have to assume that you could notify the airport security before and ask them what the best course of action should be to travel with it.
    What this means to "us" is that you have all the right procedures and should have everything set to sail through.

    What this means to security personnel is, "WARNING: some joker is coming through here with weird electronics. Take extra care in inspection."

    Everyone keeps talking about how many of these there will be... bushwah!

    Let's say that Epic sells ten times as many units as RED One, then lets say that Scarlet sells ten times as many as Epic. Let's further assume that every RED One remains in service one way or another. That would be roughly 888000 RED cameras out there. (And it would also be a startled and hapy RED team I imagine!)

    Assume they all have a RED Pro EVF with the word BOMB embossed.

    A lot of these cameras will never fly.

    So, lets assume half these cameras flies one round trip per year, with each flight having a connection. That's less than 2 million emplanements per year.

    Worldwide in 2009 there were nearly 2 billion passengers using the top 50 airports.

    Its not a lot of flying done by RED gear. Even given these highly optimistic sales figures we are looking at 1 in 1000 passengers having a RED EVF.

    Anyway... I'm done with that.

    RED has made a Kick Ass EVF, and they are giving us this great case with every unit.

    I'm very excited and eager to get mine.
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    Great product! And very cool that they include a case! And as Noah pointed out, calling it RED PRO EVF is logical and consistent with the rest of the pro line. Calling it "Bomb" EVF is fine while under development for us Red junkies (because it looked like an old atomic bomb), but shipping a final product named "Bomb" seems a poor choice from a project naming perspective. Why invite all the issues when they were brought up on the forum long ago?

    Perhaps its just another chapter in Red's history that we'll all laugh about in a few years.

    When all is said and done, I'd rather have one without "bomb" on it. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander Ibrahim View Post
    Stuart, I'm just wondering if you happen to be of middle eastern descent?

    Because it makes a difference.

    All this said, I have noted that dealing with gear is getting better in places that have the newer scanners. They can really look into the gear and satisfy themselves that it is not bomb-like more readily. I traveled to Seattle from DC and back recently with no questions whatsoever, despite carrying several bags packed to the gills with audio gear and a 7D. (I was working as sound recorder on that shoot.) Every single airport I went through on that trip had the newer scanners.
    I am sorta (India is close :).
    I've flown with bags full of cameras, circuit boards, wires, and all sorts of highly suspicious things. I've had the full search plenty of times and for random things like hard drives, two laptops, not shaving, etc.

    However, I've never been stopped for a bomb evfs.

    If I did, it would be treated no differently than the harddrive that was suspicuous with a rescan and a swab.
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