Any word on the New Epic Option?

[sandro-bachmann]

We have finished the EPIC development. Now we have to fab the boards, tooling and set up a line. While we are waiting, we can build one by one machined cameras and hand assemble with titanium mounts if there is anyone interested to pay more for something like this. We are going through now to see what we would have to charge to sell these because they will cost us a ton more than production run bodies.

There is no price increase on production EPICs. But this seemed like a way to get a few out sooner for those that can't wait.

When we have a number, we'll put it out there. There is no requirement for anyone to buy these, just kills a bit of time. If there was interest, they would go to customers by number 1st. There would be no trade in allowance. Numbers would be limited to what we can make until the line is fully operational.

It is important to note that these cameras would not delay or hold up production from the line. They are not Tattoo cameras... they would be special production cameras.

Just a thought and we wanted to hear some opinions... we can go either way.

Jim

So is that the EPIC news, we were waiting for? thats it?

[Greg M]

Just a thought and we wanted to hear some opinions... we can go either way.

Jim

Please start hand building #83

[Tony Lorentzen]

Are we talking about the option of buying a pre-ordered EPIC or buying totally off-queue? Meaning $28K + premium? So if I had the cash to buy one of these hand-built EPICs now - would I still be able to go Stage 2 later?

[KETCH ROSSi]

We have finished the EPIC development. Now we have to fab the boards, tooling and set up a line. While we are waiting, we can build one by one machined cameras and hand assemble with titanium mounts if there is anyone interested to pay more for something like this. We are going through now to see what we would have to charge to sell these because they will cost us a ton more than production run bodies.

There is no price increase on production EPICs. But this seemed like a way to get a few out sooner for those that can't wait.

When we have a number, we'll put it out there. There is no requirement for anyone to buy these, just kills a bit of time. If there was interest, they would go to customers by number 1st. There would be no trade in allowance. Numbers would be limited to what we can make until the line is fully operational.

It is important to note that these cameras would not delay or hold up production from the line. They are not Tattoo cameras... they would be special production cameras.

Just a thought and we wanted to hear some opinions... we can go either way.

Jim

Depends how fast and how much. But I am 1000% interested in more cameras at a premium, specifically due to interest and demand for 3D.

I think what matters the most to make such a decision is having the "latest best guess" at when STAGE 2 will roll, etc. -

But ... yeah ... you are going to get a BUNCH of folks who will pay $$ to get them faster -

What Mark said Jim,

I will seriously consider this, especially so it could allow me to go back to Italy
with Epic-X in my hands, not that I'm not happy taking the Red One MX,
but you know what I mean ;)

Look forward to hear more!!


EDIT:


It seems that so much gets taken out of context so I'll put in my 2cents..


A) This is likely to be a similar deal to what was originally to be the TATTOO program, just that now will
be expended to more STAGE II original reserves.

B) This is not BESIDES Stage II, as it seems obvious that once you have taken the possibility of buying
a Hand Build Epic-X it will be EXECUTING one of your ORIGINAL Stage II Reservations.

C) TATTOO or Stage I was to be paid in full @ 28k and not the discounted Stage II deal of 19.5K and
for this I say it could be very fair to pay this and possibly some more for an early Hand Build Epic-X.

D) All the Above stil off course will depend on time line of getting the early Hand Build Epic-X vs. the
rest of stage II production cameras.

E) As Jim stated that this early Hand Build cameras will not be effecting the Production line of the
other Stage II cameras, I trust there should be no concern at all to those not entering the early opportunity to an Hand Build Epic-X.

[Antonio Forjaz]

Please give us a price, and I am sure you will be building many HANDMADE EPIC's very soon.

[C.H.Haskell]

I will Echo Mark and Ketch, I will pay a premium to get EPIC-X in my hands shooting now while you build production line. I think this option is very fair for the customer and the demand certainly exist so lets get this ball rolling shall we.

Oh I almost forgot to mention! Happy Turkey Day Jim and Redusers! Enjoy the holiday.

[Tim Morten]

No question that there will be some percentage of customers willing/able to pay a premium to get their cameras first. Given what some miguided people are paying for an Alexa, Red could double Epic's price and it would still be a bargain. Times being what they are though, there will be many who can't afford the premium - I am definitely in this latter category (and I'm grateful that Red is honoring it's original price, even if the delivery timeline remains uncertain).

- Tim

[Antoine Fabi]

Depends on price and how much time we would save compared to normal production line.

Antoine

[D Fuller]

I will Echo Mark and Ketch, I will pay a premium to get EPIC-X in my hands shooting now while you build production line. I think this option is very fair for the customer and the demand certainly exist so lets get this ball rolling shall we.

It's intriguing (depending on the amount of the premium) and assuming it records audio and that some of the modules are available -- say power, I/O, evf, and one of the 3 ways to control the camera? And at lease one of the sizes of SSDs.

Safe to say there is interest, but Jim, you've got to give us a little more detail before you're going to have a meaningful read of who will buy. I'm not so interested in paying a premium to have an Epic body on my desk that I can't really use for production because none of the other stuff is ready. I don't think you would propose that, but I'm not sure what you are proposing.

So have a great Thanksgiving! I'm looking forward to hearing more after the holiday.

[Meryem Ersoz]

I'm sure it will be priced out of my range, but I think it is really awesome that you're offering this option. Bring on the EPICs and silence the critics.

The more of these you can get in the field, the less you'll have to listen to the "not shipping" critique and the closer I will get to my production model. And we'll get feedback from the folks in the field.

My only question is - what about recording media? It seems like all of the other RED accessories will work with EPIC until the full EPIC line is released, but recording media continues to be a scarce commodity - what is the word on being able to meet demand on recording media for the release cameras?