Scarlet S35 is now...

[MichaelHalsell]

Once the complete Epic line has been announced and production ramps up, will
1) the R1-MX continue to be available?
2) Will there be anymore hardware updates to the R1?
3) What level of technical and accessory support will the camare have?

[Steve Das]

... what I meant was, I don't understand why Red needs to make those two Epics MORE alike...

Think the process of adding HDRx to it made it closer to Epic's horsepower.

[Scott Crawley]

Once the complete Epic line has been announced and production ramps up, will
1) the R1-MX continue to be available?

Why would anyone buy it?

[Elsie N]

... horepower.

Freudian slip much?

[Jason Sinclair]

There is obviously a market for a bare-bone sensor without the bells and whistles. External hard drive. Nikon or canon mounts, no touch screen. Battery belt. 2k $5000 price point.

[Rob Ruffo]

I happen to have a nice pile of coal already... Who wants to buy? :)

Anyway, this discussion is pretty F'd up... I don't care what Jim wants to name the cameras, he can call them whatever he wants. If I have any say in it, I would suggest he names them whatever will make them roll off the assembly line the fastest.

I think EPIC-S, EPIC-X and EPIC-M are fine. Anyone who follows the forum, even casually, should understand. If they spell out what the letter designators mean, people will understand. I preferred EPIC-Light, but I understand that some of the more insecure types will have an issue with anything "light". So, on that note, I think Jim should consider naming the EPIC 617 "The Compensator". ...Anyone want to compare "sensor" sizes? I bet mine's bigger.

Although I almost always agree with you, here I disagree.

I deal with clients directly, people like agency art directors and music producers who are not always cine-tech savvy (it is not their job, but mine). If they see a big "Light" logo on the Epic we are using, this will lead to a series of unpleasant conversations. It would be as bad as having a "Quality Reduced" or "For Cheap Prods You Don't Really Care About Only" logo on there, as far as they would be concerned.

Imagine a hip-hop producer with all his homies, and how much they will be impressed by having their video shot with some "Light-s--t". "Yo man, we don't roll that way - we go Heavy - now go get me the good camera before I shoot your ass, get me the Epic Deluxe High Roller Edition. That's what I want."

Perception is always reality, and must be handled with great care.

That said, here are some naming suggestions that are utterly stupid, but, I think, funny.

Epic Pansy
Epic Manly

[Andy Jarosz]

Will EPIC-S have a preorder, or will it go for up sale immediately?

[Scott Crawley]

"Yo man, we don't roll that way - we go Heavy - now go get me the good camera before I shoot your ass, get me the Epic Deluxe High Roller Edition. That's what I want."

Perception is always reality, and must be handled with great care.

And that's the shizzle!

[Gordon Prince]

Understood. But after all, what we can figure out is the Epic-S is a new camera that will replace the project of another one, Scarlet S35.

I dislike to have to say it but I'd rather have the Scarlet S35 in any way whatsoever. Especially now with this information from yours that only stands and reforces my idea.

And... you are not the only one.

[Steve Das]

...Even Arri have Arricam Lite and it is so common in the industry to name the "lighter" less featured model just as a "Light (Lite)".
Than simply everybody has got a message what is going on there...

Perception is always reality, and must be handled with great care.

The Arri difference is being film cameras there is no image connection
to Lite. The film not the camera is the image. Lite refers to weight.
In a digital camera..the camera is the film..the camera is the image.

Arricam ST = 18.19 lbs.
Arricam LT = 11.57 lbs.

So a film camera that weights a third less it's a big deal..you want to
put it in the name. One easily can imagine what conclusion an actor..producer
or director jumps to when they find out "Lite" Epic weighs same as Epic X.

The importance of words lost on some here..but not
I think Mr. Jannard...he recently started a thread on what the
word Professional meant to people and it ran for 30 pages.