The Hobbit...

[Will Keir]

3rd Hobbit Film!!!

For those still watching this thread that might have missed the small section on the RED site.

http://www.red.com/news/peter-jackso...d-hobbit-movie

I'm excited, glad to see they want to give us more than the book. I missed Tom Bombadil in the first one, They should amend it. :)

[Caden Nash]

I can't wait

[Gavin Greenwalt]

The CGI costs for 4K at 48fps would be staggering (renders alone would be a mammoth increase, 16 times the rendering of a 2K finished 2D movie?)

2k -> 4k = 4x
24fps -> 48fps = 2x

4 * 2 = 8x.

There would be some savings though since you could use lower sampling settings. But yeah. Lots more data no matter what. Especially if WETA is going deep-pixel compositing for a lot of it.

[Gabe Conroy]

2k -> 4k = 4x
24fps -> 48fps = 2x

4 * 2 = 8x.

There would be some savings though since you could use lower sampling settings. But yeah. Lots more data no matter what. Especially if WETA is going deep-pixel compositing for a lot of it.

3D gives you another 2x multiplier bringing it to 16.

[Craig Parkes]

2k -> 4k = 4x
24fps -> 48fps = 2x

4 * 2 = 8x.

There would be some savings though since you could use lower sampling settings. But yeah. Lots more data no matter what. Especially if WETA is going deep-pixel compositing for a lot of it.

You misread my comparison, I was comparing 4K, 48 in 3D, to 2K, 24 in 2D (which is what the vfx in LOTR would have been.)


So in pure pixel terms, given similar amounts of VFX and similar duration per film, the overall processing capacity compared to 10-12 years ago when they were last working in Middle Earth would be a 16 x increase if they were go to 4K for everything.

I see Gabe has spotted what I was mentioning.

[Craig Parkes]

Also, just did some very rough spitball maths, and the film cost equivalent would have been what, about $12million dollars just for stock (0.55/ft no processing) where the raw HDD costs for 12TB x 266 days x 4 (identical redundant copies) at say 7cents/gig =$900K.

[Marc Wielage]

Also, just did some very rough spitball maths, and the film cost equivalent would have been what, about $12million dollars just for stock (0.55/ft no processing) where the raw HDD costs for 12TB x 266 days x 4 (identical redundant copies) at say 7cents/gig =$900K.

The film footage cost comparisons were made to 4-perf film. If it had been shot on 3-perf -- a more likely consideration -- film costs would've been 25% less. But that's a "what if" that no longer applies in the real world.

Film costs, developing costs, and dailies costs are a non-issue with a $500 million production. Catering will cost more than $12 million on a film this size. Note also they're going back and doing reshoots, so I think they're going over $500M. But since they're getting 3 movies out of this, I think there's an excellent chance they'll still make a big profit, and I have faith that Jackson will make a great film.

[Gavin Greenwalt]

You misread my comparison, I was comparing 4K, 48 in 3D, to 2K, 24 in 2D (which is what the vfx in LOTR would have been.)


So in pure pixel terms, given similar amounts of VFX and similar duration per film, the overall processing capacity compared to 10-12 years ago when they were last working in Middle Earth would be a 16 x increase if they were go to 4K for everything.

I see Gabe has spotted what I was mentioning.

Gotcha! My bad.

[Brian F Kobylarz]

Posted today on deadline.com:

link: http://www.deadline.com/2012/08/the-...-july-18-2014/


Warner Bros and MGM Pictures jointly announced today that the final film in Peter Jackson’s trilogy adaptation of the*JRR Tolkien novel is now titled The Hobbit: There and Back Again. It will be released worldwide on July 18, 2014. All three films in the trilogy are productions of New Line Cinema and Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Pictures.

The Studios also announced the title of the second installment in the franchise, The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug, which will be released on December 13, 2013.

The first film in the trilogy, The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey, opens this holiday season on December 14, 2012.

Under Jackson’s direction, all three movies are being shot in digital 3D using the latest camera and stereo technology. Additional filming, as with principal photography, is taking place at Stone Street Studios, Wellington, and on location around New Zealand.Shot in 3D 48 frames-per-second, the film trilogy will be released in High Frame Rate (HFR) 3D, other 3D formats, IMAX, and 2D.

[Will Keir]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6USjZL7C1j8

The song from the trailer.

I love the atmosphere of this music, thought you guys might like to sing along and dream of the adventures to come.

"Far over the Misty Mountains cold..."