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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Adams View Post
    Same here, I was concerned about swapping lens mounts.

    Jim & Red Team, do the improvements on the PL mount also find their way to the Nikon mount or not related?


    Thanks for the updates!
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    Thanks Jim.

    Great news.

    No problem for any delay.

    Keep safe in that fire disaster.
    "There is no point in having sharp images when you've fuzzy ideas."
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    Dynamic range is, after all, the measurement between well saturation (photosite blowout) and noise floor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbeale View Post
    I have no idea, and Red may not want to describe all their secrets, but it's fun to speculate. My guess is the new technique is akin to multiple read-outs from the sensor, which takes more time of course, so it will only work at slower frame-rates. I know there is something called "correlated double sampling" which reduces sensor read-out noise. Or maybe a new A/D chip with lower internal noise has recently come on the market, but it has a slower max. clock rate, so they have to fall back to the older chip for > 25 fps.
    You think about this:
    http://www.imec.be/esscirc/ESSCIRC20...des/C04.03.pdf

    I rather see two frames taken at different shutter angle equal to two or 4 stops and combined.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Adams View Post
    Jim & Red Team, do the improvements on the PL mount also find their way to the Nikon mount or not related?

    yes I had the same question. Shim free means no hassle when changing from Pl to Nikon or any other?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarred Land View Post
    yes...

    ok...
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarred Land View Post
    The lens mount upgrade alone is worth the hold...
    Tell me about it:turned:

    This is all really great news. Keep it up.

    IBloom
     

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    1. We are implementing a new daughter board to the sensor. The result is increased dynamic range and reduced noise (incredible as that may seem) over serial numbers 1-100 with no downside. This improvement affects all frame rates at or below 25fps. This is a major breakthrough for RED and I am sure will be of great benefit to all camera owners.
    This is great and the type of thing that I'm willing to hold out for. I continue to be disappointed with other camera systems when it comes to dynamic range and noise. If you can improve on your original design without a huge increase in size of the camera, then I'm happy.

    2. We have developed a new stainless steel PL mount system that is user adjustable, stable and does not use shims. It is as close to a religious experience as a lens mount gets.
    Also very cool. I was getting concerned about some of the reports about the mount.

    3. We are taking time to enable more features and stabilize the firmware. We have a few more bugs than we like with each new build. The firmware should be finished about the same time we execute the new daughter board and PL mount.
    Get rid of most of the bugs by Dec 10 and I'm happy.

    We will retrofit all shipped cameras (1-100) with these changes at our expense then begin production again.
    No disgruntled Red owners, that's a good thing.

    We have a production line fully operational that is stocked with parts ready to go as soon as we can implement these improvements. The cameras affected most are 101-200.

    We made the decision today to hold production so we have the fewest amount of cameras to retrofit. I do not have a new confirmed schedule, but will post one as soon as we know exactly where we stand. It is most likely that 101-200 will begin shipping November 30th and 201-600 will begin shipping December 10th.
    A few more days is no big deal.

    We believe we can make all these changes with this minor schedule impact even though the fire generated ash has contaminated our clean rooms and will take a week to fix. The fires still rage here and ash is everywhere.
    How bad was the ash damage? Did it affect production cameras? Hope you guys get by with the least amount of damage out there. Those fires look quite intense. Our thoughts are with those who are being put in harm's way.

    We appreciate your patience. These changes and additions will greatly increase the capability and convenience of the RED ONE for all users. This is a perfect example of the RED ONE becoming a "next generation" camera for all our users without any additional cost.[/B]
    Well, by sweetening the pot with even better features, it makes the wait a bit easier. We just had a baby girl, so we've got our hands full for a while. A small delay on the camera is a minor inconvenience at the moment. Just means I don't get to shoot 4K home movies right away.

    Thanks Jim!

    Steve
     

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    new daughter board to the sensor
    - INCREDIBLE!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jannard View Post
    new stainless steel PL mount system that is user adjustable, stable and does not use shims
    - When do you guys sleep???

    Quote Originally Posted by Jannard View Post
    taking time to enable more features and stabilize the firmware
    - More time for me to plan my Red projects!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jannard View Post
    We will retrofit all shipped cameras (1-100) with these changes at our expense
    - Kindness, commitment, integrity, generosity, honesty, .... Too bad we the farmers between the shells of this world (Han) are the only once experiencing this phenomenon!

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    Why would anyone looking to buy a digital cinema acquisition system want anything else? It's just stupid how good this package is becoming.
     

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    first of all, amazing that you will already be retrofitting the old cameras (maybe you shouldnt have rushed them out the door :P) but thats good on you

    second, i wish you the best of luck with those fires
     

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