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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle Presley View Post
    I have heard (can't cite it) that 16x9 is roughly similar to the aspect of our own eyes. Two eyes, with a little overlap... Kind of makes sense. Anybody else heard this before, or am I off my rocker?
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    4k 2:1 is a great format to master, as it can contain both HD and Scope aspect ratios without losing too much resolution:


    Red is 2:1, Blue is 2.4:1 (Scope), Green is 1.78:1 (HD)

    I feel like Scope media on a Blu-Ray is already sacrificing too much vertical resolution, pity they don't support Full Height Anamorphic like DVDs do. But as far as a single clean aspect ratio to Rule Them All, 2:1 is a lot nicer than the DCI Spec 4k 1.89:1
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    Happen to notice my Bonaire footage today? 2:1... oh, yeah. thx jim
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jannard View Post
    I make lots of statements when I have no idea what I'm talking about... :-)

    We have seen just about every aspect ratio and feel that 2:1 is a great look... a bit more wide screen than 16:9 and very logical. We have no idea who set the 16:9 standard and what they were thinking. "Who made these rules anyway?". We all just like 2:1 better. We always have. I guess now that people are beginning to pay attention to what we say... we should voice our humble opinion.

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    Lol. Thanks Jim. Well, one thing that's cool is that because you are the industry's biggest 4k advocate and it's (in a sense) a new format, I don't see why you can't or shouldn't push for a different and better standard. Makes perfect sense :)
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    We like the look of 2:1. Plus it is the easiest format to go to 1.89:1 and 2.40:1. Best of all worlds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jannard View Post
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    Well, I suppose I incriminated myself there :-) I definitely prefer the 2:1 aspect over 1.78:1 or 1.89:1. Just wide enough to be epic but not so wide as to be pretentious.
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    In 2009 Youtube went to 2:1 format then they changed back.
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    this was also the same year they started experimenting with 4k delivery

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    Davis, YouTube is "broadcast", so I'd say they should stick to 16:9 while it is the broadcast norm.

    Goddard's graphic shows 2:1 splits the difference between 16:9 and 2.4:1. Very smart.

    But I am thinking about shooting and delivering 2:1, for both theatrical and broadcast. I would love to know what David Mullen thinks about this.
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    Maybe it's a right time to invite Vittorio Storaro soon in RED Studios Hollywood and show him EPIC footage @ 4K 2:1 Univision as he proposed and "established" that format about 15 years ago.

    Also one another good idea could be like this one that is about how to get Steven Spielberg in Epic digital thing is to invite Janusz Kaminski who is the "current" Steven cinematographer (also one of the best living cinematographers) in RSH,

    Btw, Kaminski likes to shoot handheld, he likes to experiment with image and lenses and also he is a sort of very open minded guy.

    If those guys like a Vilmos, Vittorio and Janusz can "approve" Epic than doors to the future of 4K digital acquisition are pretty wide open...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roberto Lequeux View Post
    Davis, YouTube is "broadcast"
    ??? you following the news right?
    they are now competing with netflix
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