Avid 5.5.2 dailies from DaVinci Resolve System?

[Amarshall]

Looking for a little help figuring out the workflow on a show I'm starting. Shooting RED, DP and DMT want to set color looks with Resolve. However, resolve does not produce AAF or ALE files for Avid Media. Only MXF files. How can I get the same elements that Red CINE X was giving me with Resolve? Is there a way to merge RED CINE X AAF and ALE with MXF media from Resolve?

Suggestions much appreciated.

Aaron.

[M Most]

Looking for a little help figuring out the workflow on a show I'm starting. Shooting RED, DP and DMT want to set color looks with Resolve. However, resolve does not produce AAF or ALE files for Avid Media. Only MXF files. How can I get the same elements that Red CINE X was giving me with Resolve? Is there a way to merge RED CINE X AAF and ALE with MXF media from Resolve?

Suggestions much appreciated.

Aaron.

1. Resolve 8 can export an ALE file.

2. You don't need one because all metadata is already in the MXF files. Put them in a numbered folder under the Avid MediaFiles/MXF tree and when Avid starts up it will create a database file in that folder (the .mdb file). Drag that file into a bin and all of your master clips will appear complete with any metadata.

[Amarshall]

Thanks Most. That does get the video files in, but without the embedded sound and with only the most basic metadata. The Timecode is there, but there is no source file info and the tape column is the name of the database file repeated with ascending numbers after it for each clip(.01,.02 etc).

I think I need a solution that merges the output of RedCine X for data and audio with the output of Resolve for picture.

[MichaelP]

I don't think REDCINE X can export just an ALE from a batch selection. I need to check, but I haven't seen that option. It would be useful for not only this workflow, but for proxy recorders using the HD-SDI from the camera.

Michael

[Von Thomas]

I know it was stated above, but can you break it down very simply? I don't know Avid. I'm creating Avid files, and I need to QC them, but alas, I'm dumb when it come to Avid. I have a numbered folded with my MXF files, but what do I do with the AAF's and the ale. As I mentioned I don't need the edit, just watch. Also what should my preference settings be. Thank you in advance.

Von

[Eric Santiago]

I know it was stated above, but can you break it down very simply? I don't know Avid. I'm creating Avid files, and I need to QC them, but alas, I'm dumb when it come to Avid. I have a numbered folded with my MXF files, but what do I do with the AAF's and the ale. As I mentioned I don't need the edit, just watch. Also what should my preference settings be. Thank you in advance.

Von

Currently all I can say is that move AAF files into a bin. Move MXF files into the Avid folder structure e.g. Avid MediaFiles > MXF > 1. Then open Media Tool, select all drives and gather info. Your AAF will link to MXF.
Now can someone please tell me if this is Avids official steps? Im confused as to why the PDF on their site still states ROCKETCineX?

[Amarshall]

If you just want to see the media you've created copy your .MXF files into the numbered avid media files folder and drag and drop the matching AAF files into a new bin (make sure your project settings match your media settings when you setup a new project). They should relink automatically, but you may have to relink them manually by choosing "relink" from the "clip" menu and following the prompts. This will create a bin with the clips you can view by double clicking on.

[Eric Santiago]

If you just want to see the media you've created copy your .MXF files into the numbered avid media files folder and drag and drop the matching AAF files into a new bin (make sure your project settings match your media settings when you setup a new project). They should relink automatically, but you may have to relink them manually by choosing "relink" from the "clip" menu and following the prompts. This will create a bin with the clips you can view by double clicking on.

Now is this the official Avid way? Ive been searching all day for solid answers and found an older PDF with Avid using ROCKETCineX? Found it at www.avid.com/red site.

[Bruce Allen]

I think that the answer is that DaVinci Resolve isn't perfect for making dailies yet as it wasn't originally intended for a data-centric RED dailies workflow. But it's moving in that direction and is close enough that many of us are jumping the gun and using it anyway :)

I concur - copying over the MXFs into Avid MediaFiles is the current way to go that we're using.

BTW, given their rate of progress, I'm sure Resolve will have all kinks sorted out soon.

I think I read on the CreativeCow site that the Blackmagic guys said that they wanted to improve the audio output part (eg the fact that Resolve can't output audio embedded in R3D files) but had to focus on OpenCL, noise reduction, multilayer timeline etc for the v8.0 release?

Fingers crossed for full audio output plus dailies + Avid roundtrip with lots of metadata etc. I'm sure they are working on it. For now though, the advantages of using Resolve outweigh its limitations.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com

[Amarshall]

Hey Bruce,

Thanks for the info. So, just to be clear, you're making MXF media with Reslove and simply copying those MXF files into an Avid Media Files folder and using the media tool to make clips in a bin. Is that right? Any other Resolve settings I should be aware of? My main concerns are correct and consistent RED Filename info and TimeCode so we don't end up with matchback issues when it comes time to go the other way.

Thanks,

Aaron.