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  1. #1 How do I light this?! 
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    I'm shooting a video with my Epic on Tuesday. My we're doing a photo + video session for a fashion magazine. The theme is partying and we'll shoot at Nightclub. The photographer insisted on using his 5D to take the photos. I told him we can probably pull some awesome still from the Epic but he said he's more comfortable using his strobe lighting. I was thinking I would light the background and some ambient light and use his strobe lighting for key and fill whenever he's taking shots. That would mean everything's going to be dark until his strobes flash then you'll be able to see the model. I got on my hands now 2 4bank kinos and 3 650W arris. Do you think I'll need more. I've never done anything like this before and I wanted to know how you'd light this and if my Epic will hold up in such low light. Remember the photographer doesn't want his footage over exposed.


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    To start, You are going to have rolling shutter problems with his strobes -
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    Also, you will most likely need some CTB on your Arri lights to have them match the still photographer's strobes.

    but, along with the rolling shutter issue: even if that does work where you only see the models for a split second, is that what the client wants out of the video?
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    Rolling shutter? Are you sure? Even If I shoot at 25 fps? I even wanted to do some slow motion. I was thinking 100fps on 25 fps because I get rolling shutter issues otherwise. Any ideas what I should do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by J. P. Morgan View Post
    Also, you will most likely need some CTB on your Arri lights to have them match the still photographer's strobes.

    but, along with the rolling shutter issue: even if that does work where you only see the models for a split second, is that what the client wants out of the video?
    I'm guessing the client wants a fashion shoot on video. He should expect it to be that way. I'm not sure if he'll be too happy with the results though. I'm more film minded when it comes to cinematography. I never did anything like this
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    You will definitely have a rolling shutter problem. Your frame rate won't matter. The only solution is to paint them in post - which is probably not a solution if you are shooting models.

    You might ask your still photog if a Briese light would work for him. They have a very similar look to strobes.
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    Are you shooting behind the scenes?
    What is the goal of what you are shooting?
    Are the stills people working arou d you or are you working around them? If its to work around the video, then you should light it for you. Being dark and then just popping into brightness will look really odd. But basically you cant light a whole night club with your package, so pick an area, keno is your key, 650 backlight, also get some party gel since its a club, and put some color on the other 650 either in the BG or as an artistic edge on your talent. Change it up when they change clothes..

    Add some atmosphere if you can get a smoke machine (might have one at the club) then blast your backlight right behind your talent and get some cool sculpting with the smoke

    You cant shoot in the dark waiting for the single shot he takes..

    Endless ways to light this..

    Have fun with it and good luck
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    They're using the video as promo on their website and the shoot's for a magazine. I'm guessing they're a lot more interested in the photography side of it. What are some alternate lights I can talk the photo people into renting that would work for photo and video. Keep in mind that I'm in Egypt so it has to be something easily found.
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    all CMOS sensors have that problem, when a flash occurs your screen will be split in half and will look like crap, yes even on MX, or EPIC etc. You will have to think of a different solution (such as shooting any flashing scenes on a ccd 3 chip camera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mohamed Younis View Post
    They're using the video as promo on their website and the shoot's for a magazine. I'm guessing they're a lot more interested in the photography side of it.

    Sounds like the thing will be more like a hip, music video style promo...

    If so, you'd expose for the scene as amblent - shoot the still photographer, the model, the environment etc. and don't worry about the blowout and strobing when the flashes go off. When the flash fires use the blowout as a cut point to a new shot or the actual still that was taken at that moment. Make sense?

    I'd sure ask them very specifically what the final edit will be like.
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