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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh Beadle View Post
    Any camera over $60K can deliver 1080@24 equally well to post grading. Don't need a Death Match Shoot Out to settle that argument and certainly not why most folks purchase an RED.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rohan B View Post
    Which people look down at red man which people??????????? I want to know???? where are they?? the guys who don't like red like wally pfister and chris nolan dislike digital as a whole, they don't like alexa as well, they will convert only when digital surpasses film in terms of technical superiority i.e. more dynamic range, latitude and sensitivity than film and better color reproduction ,range and color depth...... which i am sure monstro dragon will bring. epics are being used for a lot of televisiom series and 2d features as well. All of you guys who are still saying that the industry is looking down at red are completely blind, you are not checking the real world scenario, just reading some stupid posts and making stupid theories for yourselves....

    Red epic is the digital cinema camera that is being used for most of the movies that are being shot digitally and that constitutes both 2d and 3d....
    The point I was trying to make is that people on this site go nuts defending the RED cameras. That makes people suspicious. Relax, REDs are the bomb. I rent MXs, EPICS and Alexas. They all have their place, and add to that a half of a dozen new cameras very soon. Soon it will be about picking looks (kinda like filmstocks). Someone did mention ACs trash talking the Epics. It happens, probably because the parts to build a whole feature system are still missing (I do 85% low budget features). I have seen digital projection of the trailer for "HUGO" and "Dragon Tatoo' . I have seen digital of "Drive", "Intime", Social Network", "Contagion" etc. All on a huge screen. They all looked great. It is no long RED vs Alexa and it is really not that big of a deal. Rohan mentioned that the EPIC is the camera being used for most movies, both 2D and 3D. I'm not quite sure you are right. Cameras are being picked for their different qualities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenneth Williams View Post
    Josh MAN-UP. I'm in LA. I can help with this.
    For me The Death Match has already been decided: I ordered the only 5K/300FPS/RAW camera that takes Canon glass. Oh and . . . hot chicks dig the sick RED paramilitary branding - so that's a bene that Arri can't deliver.

    To me the cine/feature film resolution, look & feel debate will be decided when the theater industry upgrades their projection system. Quality is ultimately decided by the last thing to touch the film. That's why Lucas had his THX certification and why Jim is developing 4K projection. I've seen 4K RED projected on the 40' RED Studio screen - fuckin amazing but this is not the world Joe Popcorn lives in. As long as the last link suxass there is little to argue about there. Jim will hopefully unsuck the theater industry and Joe can see what I, and other fellow REDies, have seen.

    Peace my RED brothers. It's a great time to be alive and in the game! Can't we all just get along . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh Beadle View Post
    Peace my RED brothers. It's a great time to be alive and in the game! Can't we all just get along . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenneth Williams View Post
    Josh I know what you are saying with this comment. So now I know, and it is safe to say, you are an idiot!
    Hey Brother Kenneth,
    I forgive you for your anger. With 23 posts you might not be aware that REDuser is not YouTube or 4Chan where personalized attacks are the currency of trade. From what I can tell, respectful disagreements, good humor ribbing and civil debates are more the norm. Hopefully, like me, you have a ticket to the big show tomorrow where you and I can meet and have a chuckle. I think you will find I am not an idiot, a simple minded moron with an opinion perhaps, but certainly not an idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Kanes View Post
    Anyone can see this evident in the "Milk Girls" clip produced with the original Red One Prototypes. In fact, when I saw that footage at first, I was one of the people who said "There is no way this came out of a digital camera - this must be film and this can't be real.
    Graeme's touch. 'Nattress' factory.

    Exactly my feeling, then ...and today :-)


    EDIT -- The most funny, next paragraph you'll mention his name. I've just seen now ;) And I could not agree more on your list why Alexa is mentioned. Nice to know two people with no connection in-between can have the same opinion on the facts ;)

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    Graeme was provided by aliens through an intergalactic exchange program. We gave them an In-N-Out burger location in return. Seems fair
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenneth Williams View Post
    Josh, you are right I should not have stated that you are an idiot. I am sorry for that. A statement like that might ruin your huge career as a big time Hollywood director of photography. Someone might log onto REDUSER and not hire you based on my single blog entry instead of your 479 + entries which clearly show the world just who you are. Now that I have apologized and read the rules of conduct pertaining to REDUSER I just have one thing to say… Josh I think you are an idiot!
    I will pray for you my Kenneth. Clearly your life has been hard and there have been many, many disappointments. If focusing your anger and frustration upon me allows you to have a moment of peace then I will be your brother and take that pain. Again, peace be with you always.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenneth Williams View Post
    Well said! Remember when Avid came out and editors hated it? They claimed it would be the downfall of civilization!
    True. And the most funny is that a few years later, they were simply replacing the steenbecks with Avid as I could see starting in 90s @ Lisbon film school within my days as editing department's apprentice, yet using both of them -- Steenbecks during first two years, Avid was reserved for final 3rd year.

    In my 3rd year, Sony HDCAM F900 came up and I got the chance to attend to a Sony workshop which really changed my mind on tools (and life ;) I heard the same inside the cinematography department. A former instructor of mine, cinematographer, was spreading misinformation allover the film school saying the camera would actually cost triple price :D
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