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    Senior Member RayFrisby's Avatar
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    I do feel for you Martin, I think we will hear more of this in the next few weeks. I don't have a solution !

    This was always going to be difficult for those early adopters, but I do think Red made a business decision that
    will ensure their survival.
    Have you received your cameras yet ? not sure if it will help but maybe you could make
    an appeal to Jim if you haven't yet received them.
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    I wonder this myself. If we have 4K at 24fps, how much of the sensor is cropped on the Scarlet? 20%?

    EPIC owners need not worry. It's a lot of camera for the $$ but there certainly are some compromises for the reduced price, some of which may not be apparent to many.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gene Crucean View Post
    Sorry if this has been covered already, but I simply do not have time to read through 50 pages of comments.

    But what is the crop factor for 4k on this thing? I think it's a little misleading (heh... or amazing marketing. You decide.) that RED is claiming that it's an S35 sensor. Yes, I know technically it is... and for 5k stills... it is also. But MOST people are going to be buying this camera for 4k motion. It is not an S35 sensor at that point.

    Can someone point me to data that states the crop factor for each resolution? Thanks a million.



    p.s. I'm not trying to bash. I LOVE this camera and it's a lot more camera than I was expecting. I was at the announcement event yesterday and loved how Jim took control of the situation. It's just a massive pill I'm still trying to swallow after waiting for this camera for 3 years.
    I need to know this info too. Are we saying that we're using like a 4/3 sensor size to shoot motion? I hope not, I am hoping the information is just not using as many of the pixels or something. I want my S 35 lenses to be true to their form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarred Land
    What makes a $100 Pentium 2.8ghz CPU different then a $1000 Pentium 3.2ghz CPU.? they usually come out of the same oven...
    AMD did the same thing with cores. The 3-core AMD chips are 4-core chips that did not meet the bar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Jackson View Post
    I remember the rumors back around NAB. They apparently completely scrapped the Scarlet program. The 8x zoom and compact primes are gone with the 2/3" sensor. It's a shame, really. That would have been a pretty interesting system.

    This camera seems like an oddity to me. The data rates seem to severely limit it. And weren't we expecting an "Epic-S" soon for just a couple of thousand more than this that use the same sensor and offer higher data rates? Has that program been cancelled, as well?

    -Rob

    If you remember, few years ago, that was all Scarlet..2/3: fixed , interchangeable, then S35 and so on. So, in essence, they only scrapped Scarlet 2/3 , but not Scarlet S35 that eventually became 4K. That's my theory and I'm sticking to it until someone proves me wrong (that is usually very quickly ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric J View Post
    I want my S 35 lenses to be true to their form.
    Will not be. The question though is by how much.

    My math skills aren't up to par... can someone help me out? Crop factors for each res?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric J View Post
    Nik, I feel the same way bro. I bought mine last night and I'm already getting accessories in order so I can shoot the day it arrives.
    i've doing that as well. pretty effing excited right now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric J View Post
    I need to know this info too. Are we saying that we're using like a 4/3 sensor size to shoot motion? I hope not, I am hoping the information is just not using as many of the pixels or something. I want my S 35 lenses to be true to their form.
    I have no idea what you guys are talking about... The sensor in Scarlet is a 5K sensor.. that is LARGER than an S35 frame.

    When cropped to 4K.. it is very close to the same size as an S35 frame.
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    I wonder this myself. If we have 4K at 24fps, how much of the sensor is cropped on the Scarlet? 20%?
    Since I am too lazy to find the original post, here is a chart created by Steven Hilder showing sensor size and the various crop sizes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarred Land View Post
    I have no idea what you guys are talking about... The sensor in Scarlet is a 5K sensor.. that is LARGER than an S35 frame.

    When cropped to 4K.. it is very close to the same size as an S35 frame.
    Thanks so much Jarred, you made my day!!!! I feel honored to be even responding to your comment. I bought my Scarlet X last evening. First Red cam even though I've been whoring this site for so long.
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