SCARLET ANNOUNCEMENT - Feedback

[Eric J Kosinski]

I asked Graeme if the 8X fixed was smoke and mirrors to side track the competition.

He said it was completely Legit, it just didn't work out.

Honestly I think what we got is nothing less than a Blessing and clearly it is what we were meant to have.

Thank You!

Did you honestly even think that? It would have cost millions of dollars to create lenses working electronically like shown by TED several times. This wasn't a hoax guys. Lets give RED some respect for moving a product aside instead of forcing it at us with problems. No other company would do what they have done and nixed a product like that with so much invested.

[Travis Freeburg]

Did you honestly even think that? It would have cost millions of dollars to create lenses working electronically like shown by TED several times. This wasn't a hoax guys. Lets give RED some respect for moving a product aside instead of forcing it at us with problems. No other company would do what they have done and nixed a product like that with so much invested.

Except maybe HP

:P

[Werner Jauch]

I'm looking forward to my Scarlet. I'm curious, will it also be made in USA? Would be awesome if yes

[Jiri Bakala]

I work mostly in TV broadcast documentary world - which brings some issues with the current Scarlet specs:

- I need an easy to use fairly long reach zoom lens (14-18x, ideally with a doubler)
- it's nice to have a servo zoom control
- I don't have to shoot (always) at 4k, 2k would be great

Therefore:

1. Any suggestions on broadcast-style PL zoom lenses?
2. What happens if one was to use a S16mm PL lens? Crop factor? Conversion ration?

Any takers? Thanks for any suggestions.

Can somebody help me out here please? Thanks.

[David Collard]

Jiri,
You can use a 2/3" type B4 broadcast lens with a Red B4 converter if you really are used to shooting that way.
Of course that type of lens will not resolve the image area on the sensor, so you'll be limited to shooting up to 2K.

• As far as I am aware, eng-broadcast style PL zoom lenses don't exist which is why you'd have to use a Red B4 mount converter.

• There are guys out there talking about using S16mm glass. Sounds like a really viable option and quite possibly
a brilliant "old school" idea because you can purchase a variety of quality glass relatively cheap.

Some people would roll their eyes because you're not shooting 4K, but you'd still be getting the benefit of the new
MX sensor look, raw recording and film quality post production attributes.

[RayFrisby]

Hi Jiri ! maybe send Steve Gibby a PM he's probably the guy with the most Broadcast experience I know of.

Jiri ! Just wondering will the Proxy Module help your TV broadcast work ? and what format
would be best for this. I know H264 will be great for direct streaming to the web but for quality
broadcast work and quick turnaround of footage what is the best recoding format to use.

Ray

[HannodiRosa]

Can somebody help me out here please? Thanks.

Jiri I think the scarlet is not projected for this kind of lens and work type. You might adapt your work-style to it just like all the DSLR shooters for TV DOK work do over here in Europe ( and their stuff is broadcast!).

So forget the typical ENG lens for now....or wait until some small company offers a solution for your requirements.

[Tim H.]

Yes they are.. still don't understand what people expect here.... but o well. Can't make everyone happy :)

Jarred, I see why you are frustrated. I also posted earlier asking if we could use other SSD media because of the prices and never even thought about some of the things you mentioned like the extra testing or firmware tweaks you do to have them perform up to your standards. That all makes sense.

If i were shooting for a client or anything of importance where we could not afford media to be corrupted I would never think of shooting without solid Red approved media. However, if I were shooting my own material on my own time or my own projects I might be ok with using media that was not Red and roll the dice a little. There are some seriously solid SSD drives out there that are wicked fast and really reliable, so picking up a few for 1/6 the price and using it for less important things doesn't seem that crazy to me. It's just an option and hope you see both sides to this.

First let me say that the Scarlet has turned out to be a wicked camera, that offers more than any camera in it's range. Yet I think it's obvious that a lot of users on here have been waiting for that 3K scarlet for years now and maybe expected it to double in price based on the posts in the forum recently but at at last it's a 9K camera which is really 14K if you don't already own an Epic and have the required accessories. Then you need media, I would say two 64gb 4 packs at a minimum for any realistic amount of storage in a day of shooting - that is another 6-7K. So there is some sticker shock for some users who are true Red supporters and have been waiting patiently for years to finally have the chance to buy in to Red and become a Red owner, not just a Red forum reader.

A lot of those users have helped support and promote Red over the years even when they didn't own anything Red made, so I hope you are not too hard on them for trying to minimize the financial impact while realizing their dream.

[Mark T Workman]

Sweet !!!

Originally Posted by Jarred Land
Correct. The mounts are smart.. as soon as you take one off ( with 4 screws ) and put another on the camera will know what it is and automatically load the appropriate lens database in a second and a half and your ready to shoot.

Thank you! Missed this and it does help fill in the blanks quite a bit.

However, can you (or anyone) tell me with regard to using the Spacecam mount if I can still mount PL as well on this mount or will I have to either use an adapter or change back to the Ti PL mount?

Perhaps another way to ask this is, "Since the Spacecam mount doesn't nullify any warranty, does the camera see the Spacecam mount as a PL and will this mount function as a PL?"

Congratulations to everyone at Red on broadening the range of the professional market.

[Daniel Reed]

We are not likely to offer "Scarlet only" media. Someone owns both EPIC and Scarlet and has to remember which media will work with which camera?

Jim

Brilliant! Truly use both Epic and Scarlet to meet different shot demands and multiple camera setups for a said project, w/ no need to create seperate rigs, store separate media, or have separate anything... suddenly want 4K HDRx for a sunrise shot, swap in the epic(or rent it for a day) and use the same media... decide for higher frame rates for slow-mo/timeplay, swap in the epic... want to shoot 4k on the side of mountain w/ a Jib, swap out the epic for the the less expensive Scarlet.