You can use a 2/3" type B4 broadcast lens with a Red B4 converter if you really are used to shooting that way.
Of course that type of lens will not resolve the image area on the sensor, so you'll be limited to shooting up to 2K.
• As far as I am aware, eng-broadcast style PL zoom lenses don't exist which is why you'd have to use a Red B4 mount converter.
• There are guys out there talking about using S16mm glass. Sounds like a really viable option and quite possibly
a brilliant "old school" idea because you can purchase a variety of quality glass relatively cheap.
Some people would roll their eyes because you're not shooting 4K, but you'd still be getting the benefit of the new
MX sensor look, raw recording and film quality post production attributes.
So forget the typical ENG lens for now....or wait until some small company offers a solution for your requirements.
Jarred, I see why you are frustrated. I also posted earlier asking if we could use other SSD media because of the prices and never even thought about some of the things you mentioned like the extra testing or firmware tweaks you do to have them perform up to your standards. That all makes sense.
If i were shooting for a client or anything of importance where we could not afford media to be corrupted I would never think of shooting without solid Red approved media. However, if I were shooting my own material on my own time or my own projects I might be ok with using media that was not Red and roll the dice a little. There are some seriously solid SSD drives out there that are wicked fast and really reliable, so picking up a few for 1/6 the price and using it for less important things doesn't seem that crazy to me. It's just an option and hope you see both sides to this.
First let me say that the Scarlet has turned out to be a wicked camera, that offers more than any camera in it's range. Yet I think it's obvious that a lot of users on here have been waiting for that 3K scarlet for years now and maybe expected it to double in price based on the posts in the forum recently but at at last it's a 9K camera which is really 14K if you don't already own an Epic and have the required accessories. Then you need media, I would say two 64gb 4 packs at a minimum for any realistic amount of storage in a day of shooting - that is another 6-7K. So there is some sticker shock for some users who are true Red supporters and have been waiting patiently for years to finally have the chance to buy in to Red and become a Red owner, not just a Red forum reader.
A lot of those users have helped support and promote Red over the years even when they didn't own anything Red made, so I hope you are not too hard on them for trying to minimize the financial impact while realizing their dream.
Correct. The mounts are smart.. as soon as you take one off ( with 4 screws ) and put another on the camera will know what it is and automatically load the appropriate lens database in a second and a half and your ready to shoot.
Thank you! Missed this and it does help fill in the blanks quite a bit.
However, can you (or anyone) tell me with regard to using the Spacecam mount if I can still mount PL as well on this mount or will I have to either use an adapter or change back to the Ti PL mount?
Perhaps another way to ask this is, "Since the Spacecam mount doesn't nullify any warranty, does the camera see the Spacecam mount as a PL and will this mount function as a PL?"
Congratulations to everyone at Red on broadening the range of the professional market.
Brilliant! Truly use both Epic and Scarlet to meet different shot demands and multiple camera setups for a said project, w/ no need to create seperate rigs, store separate media, or have separate anything... suddenly want 4K HDRx for a sunrise shot, swap in the epic(or rent it for a day) and use the same media... decide for higher frame rates for slow-mo/timeplay, swap in the epic... want to shoot 4k on the side of mountain w/ a Jib, swap out the epic for the the less expensive Scarlet.
EDIT: Just read that other reply - I think they could be color coded and that is then easy - you could also use them in the EPIC just not for high framerate high data rate stuff. oh well - as said maybe prices drop when we demand tons of them...
Hi, media reliability and speed (not only in camera but also when copying files to other drives) is a HUGE deal. Yes, some people use the RED cameras casually but its best to limit the media options to something that RED has some control over since one never knows when even a modest comercial production will use a cheaper media (for cost or convenience reasons) that ends up costing them a lot of money in lost or corrupted files
The Compact Flash Media was and still is a huge bottleneck and risk in the RED camera workflow. In fact I have personally witnessed producers and clients come into a post-production house almost in tears because the have useless clips that were corrupted when being copied. Work with RED cameras long enough and you will see that happen to someone. Yes, it is not REDs fault, its mainly the fault of some digital loader that didnt do his job properly and did not check all clips fully before giving back a card to the CA or DP to be re-used. BUT, those clients that were burned by someones incompetence did not care, to them, using the RED camera was risky. (Yes, I know, film WAS/Is very risky too but in the analog world some risk seems to be acceptable, In the instant gratification digital world, it somehow isnt).
The New REDMAGs solve the speed and reliability problem. Its probably the best media solution out there, less are needed in a production (even a Movie Production shooting at a typical shooting ratio will rarely ever go over 300gb per camera, a lot of times its half that)
Regarding the RED Scarlet, well, I kinda accepted the fact that RED basically scrapped the idea of an affordable ($3-6k with lens) Raw recording video camera and basically made an EPIC lite. It is what it is. Which is still awesome, the more choices the better.
Really happy about the Stage 3 Release! Thanks Red Team!
Not sure what PL mount you are talking about, but its not going to be automatic like the RED mounts are.
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