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  1. #1 So what can you do with a Scarlet-X... 
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    Well, as a still cam, it is all the way up there with Epic + it defaults to come with the Canon mount.

    Lucky bastards!

    As much as I wanted the 2/3", that was as a supplement to the Epic... To do totally diferent types of images. Not as the primary "Cinema" camera.

    The incredible thing about the Epic - once you start using it - is NOT the tech sheet.
    Anyone can make those.

    The incredible thing is how it under- and overexposes gracefully in a way I cannot remember to have seen since I shot... welll... stills on film...

    It's all of a sudden NOT primarily a digital cinema camera anymore, but just a wonderfull camera.

    As far as I can see, the Scarlet shares all those features, so I thought the Scarlet Crowd may have some fun looking into these images and tests, as that's all the fun you're gonna have.
    Just get prepared to have fun and rely on the fantastic tool you are getting.
    It's probably one of the best stills cameras out there. Too...


    I started a small thread with tests and stills for the Epic back in June.

    It has gained some traction.
    Comparisons with R1MX will be posted in not so long time, too, and I try to answer the questions that arise... If I find them relevant...

    Here goes:

    http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthr...an-Epic/page26

    Cheers and welcome to the fun!


    I'll be posting r3d's and stills to this first post for now, so they are easier to find...

    Here goes:
    Please e-mail the rmd's, and I'll host them alongside your developments.

    The RMDs need to be zipped before you mail them to work properly.

    My mail is:

    gunleikgroven at gmail dot com




    Development examples found here:
    http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthr...l=1#post869470




    Development examples found here:
    http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthr...l=1#post869424






    Development examples here:
    http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthr...l=1#post869475


    Just have to mention that I used a lot of diffusion on the "soft" images...

    And finally the RAW files:

    http://www.gunleik.com/stills/3xr3d.zip




    Development examples here:
    http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthr...l=1#post867299

    The R3D:
    http://www.gunleik.com/stills/clip_r3d.zip




    Development examples here:
    http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthr...l=1#post867056

    The R3D:
    http://www.gunleik.com/stills/clip2_r3d.zip

    OK

    2 "int car" clips to play with. These are HDRX clips, not single frames.

    I challenge you to not only post your results (to youtube or wherever) but also explain how and why you chose to solve it that way.

    These clips aren't really beautifull in any way, but quite challenging...



    Corresponding r3d (about 1.8 GB)

    http://gunleik.com/stills/A005_C002_0730XX.RDC.zip


    Second clip:


    Corresponding r3d (about 1.8 GB)
    http://www.gunleik.com/stills/A005_C009_07305P.RDC.zip

    So.... The Greenscreen clip

    This is 120 fps 4k 16:9
    There is a reason for the framing... :)

    As a sidenote - and you'll see, we had the tint going bananas that day, but I didn't really worry. It's RAW, right...





    And here's the R3D (about 1 GB)

    http://www.gunleik.com/stills/A002_C021_07240Q.RDC.zip



    Next up - EXT HDRx

    2GB clip



    Would love to see what and how you guys do with the examples, though...

    Here is the r3d
    http://www.gunleik.com/stills/A005_C010_0730CU.RDC.zip

    ON REQUEST: A COUPLE OF STILLS FROM THAT LAST SHOT:



    The imagelist for this grab:
    http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthr...l=1#post871542




    Here is the Image list:
    http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthr...l=1#post871490

    ZIP file with the 2 frames:
    http://gunleik.com/stills/ext_hdrx_2xr3d.zip


    30 GS frames, for those that cannot download the long clip...




    And the ZIP (65 MB)
    http://gunleik.com/stills/A005_C010_0730CU.RDC.zip


    Couple of sec's @ 2000 ISO



    174 MB ZIP
    http://gunleik.com/stills/A006_C001_07310Z.RDC.zip

    'Couple of secs of light directly fired at the sensor...



    ZIP (240 MB)
    http://gunleik.com/stills/A005_C002_07272H.RDC.zip

    Exposuretest:
    OK here is a tungsten Exposuretest I did from over to under. The last exposure is @ T22 + an ND6
    They all have HDRx channel in them so if that isn't low enough, you can just pick the X channel... :)

    That gives 10 stops + the X channel (3) difference between the first and the last exposure....

    As you can see from the slate, I shot the R1 MX side-by-side with the same optics on this test... :)






















    And here are the R3D's

    http://www.gunleik.com/stills/exposuretests_r3d.zip





    R3D:
    http://www.gunleik.com/stills/A007_C...00660F.R3D.zip

    RMD:
    http://www.gunleik.com/stills/RMD_01.zip




    r3d/RMD
    http://www.gunleik.com/stills/A007_C...J.0001239F.zip



    R3D & RMD:
    http://gunleik.com/stills/maryam_r3d.zip




    R3D & RMD:
    http://gunleik.com/stills/july_r3d_rmd.zip

    Imagelist:
    http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthr...l=1#post872532

    Cheers and good luck!


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    Wow perfect! Thank you Gunleik!
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    Both of it, photography and moving images.

    Also I'm not interested in any kind of slow motion if can't make over 1000 fps.

    120fps or even 300fps is not enough slow for me...

    So I'm very very rare in a situation to use slow motion and 60fps @ 2K is enough slow if I'm in a desperate need for that effect.

    Also I don't rent and make commercials any more, just simple creative or experimental sort of work.

    That means Scarlet will fit perfect to my style of shooting stills and motion pictures.
    "There is no point in having sharp images when you've fuzzy ideas."
    Jean-Luc Godard.

    Dynamic range is, after all, the measurement between well saturation (photosite blowout) and noise floor.
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    ... hehe ... fun fun with gunleik .... ;-)

    ... with certain types of fun films .... production cost at 120 FPS are reduced to about 20% .... just sayin´ .... :-))

    and it looks much more artistic !!! ....


    seriously, gunleik´s thread is cool and he knows a lot of stuff ... and he is cool to hang out with ... and he knows how to cook (!)
    if you can, get hold of him, hire him, learn and enjoy a very smart mind ...

    so now, enough commercial, go go and read (!)

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunleik Groven View Post
    Here goes:

    http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthr...an-Epic/page26

    Cheers and welcome to the fun!

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    The trade off to get Epic resolution and image quality at the expense of slower frame rates is ultimately worth it for me. I will miss that 120fps at 3k potential though.

    Gunleik, the quality and range of stills you showed us from Epic has me drooling with anticipation.
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    Gunleik, any chance you'll be able to post some .r3d files? I'm making my way through the thread, but haven't seen any.
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    Hm...

    I am debating that...
    Giving away negatives is a bit touchy... Any paticular you want?, and I'll think about it.

    Would be fun maybe to post the last frame to see what you guys would get out of it...

    Post a wishlist, and I'll see what I wanna do... :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunleik Groven View Post
    The incredible thing is how it under- and overexposes gracefully in a way I cannot remember to have seen since I shot... welll... stills on film...
    Did you see dramatic changes to this before FLUT ? (just curious)
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    FLUT doesn't affect that.

    In fact I am sittng on an unpublished article on how to handle overexposure nicely on the R1. As I am onlining hours of material from a multitude of DP's, I see it and the issues it creates a lot.
    I sorta landed on that that info was one of my main advantages in a competitive market, and left it on my harddrive back in March.

    As THAT isn't an issue any more, I can publish it, but it has kinda lost its relevance with Epic and now Scarlet comming out...

    OTOH...

    There are still about 10.000 R1s in the wild...

    hahaha

    So, maybe now is the time

    As a part of REDs "free" marketngplan for their new cameras....

    LOL
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    Nice thread. Apart from image size, do you see any difference in DR, noise or anything else between 4k and 5k? Or are the images strictly identical?
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