The Scarlet Speculation Thread!

[Lexicon]

I don't think a high-end prosumer camera would be very successful outputting RAW.

Is Scarlet a B-camera/documentary camera or a wedding shooter special?

The wedding shooters will probably lust for it and try to get it just as there are people here getting REDs who wouldn't normally have any contact with or business using that kind of technology at their end of the industry (if they are even part of it). I can without a doubt see it being used for documentaries and nature stuff though I honestly think RED syndrome (in this case Scarlet Fever) will flare up again and we'll be seeing people doing what they did with their RED One purchases though I haven't a shit's idea of what the price is going to be. I'm thinking around 10K would be ideal though given the fact that it's Jim Jannard and the RED Army behind it, I'm possibly a few K over. If it's going to be what I think it is (jokes aside), then it is exactly what I want for my own use but I'll wait until we know more to give any deep thoughts about it. NAB is certainly going to be interesting and I'm looking forward to hearing all about Jim's latest kick to the groin of the establishment.

[Erik Greensmith]

This is what I would cause me to explode if it turned out to be real:


-Ergonomical, palm-fitting form factor with compensation for second-hand support

- 4K! If that's too nuts, 2K from a mini-Mysterium flat sensor and RAW as hell, baby

- Interchangeable lens mount with a customizable locking ring for various brands of SLR glass and s4/i and all that PLUS a rock-solid Red lens (as usual) that should be a one-size-fits for most people

- 64 - 128GB solid-state flash pack for recording, hot-swappable and with CF option

- 5" or greater LCD, 1080p, no EVF as it's a waste of space on a non-shoulder cam

- It's a run-and-gun deal so maybe forgo monitor output in favor of more audio IO (on the bottom please) and LEMO power for lights and other stuff

That's all for now. This is just the primer, of course, we can now delve into all the extrenuous and likely impossible specifics of a roxor back-pocket camera.

[Erik Greensmith]

Actually, now that I think about, D-link HDSDI 2K might be pretty roxor.

[Chris Nuzzaco]

I have inside information....inside my head that is.

Ok here is Scarlett, in a RED shell.

1920x1080p able to do 720 and 480 HD and SD(but iffy on the SD)

Will have a standard lens that is easily removed or converted for use with
Red Rock or other 35 adapter or Red makes its own adapter.....oh yeah.

swing out 3.5 LCD with some focus assists and an eye piece.

Records to cards or out firewire? SDI? SATA? to drive such as firestore.

records redcode.

Read it and rejoice Reddys

That sounds a lot like an HVX200 minus the DVCPROHD codec :bleh:

Multi format and resolution would be killer though.

[Paul Hazlett]

HVX200 is only 720 and pixel shifts. I think the ol' girl is going to be true
1920 1080 progressive with variable frame rates like 24p and the like

[Jaron Berman]

I would imagine that they could go 2 routes with the sensor -

1: Use the same sensor as R1, but change the downstream electronics. This would make the chip itself cheaper - economies of scale - for both R1 and Scarlet. Good thing about this route is that they already know everything about the chip and how to implement it, which saves R&D and coding time. If it outputs windowed 2k (or 1080p) from the chip, chances are they could streamline the electronics, the cooling fins, etc... such that they could shrink the whole thing down.

2: Use an off-the-shelf sensor and incorporate it into their processing pipeline. On the positive side, the chips would be in FAR larger quantities than mysterium, so the per chip price even for RED's small volumes would be very good. The downside is that they would have to work to implement it, as opposed to going with a known system. Not insurmountable.

[Erik Greensmith]

[QUOTE=
2: Use an off-the-shelf sensor and incorporate it into their processing pipeline. On the positive side, the chips would be in FAR larger quantities than mysterium, so the per chip price even for RED's small volumes would be very good. The downside is that they would have to work to implement it, as opposed to going with a known system. Not insurmountable.[/QUOTE]


As long as it's flat and over S16 size I don't think image characteristics should be too different from the R1 regardless of chip maker.

[JustMe]

The lens is not fixed.

dude you have my attention

[Carl Larsen]

My wish list:

2K Redcode Raw
S16 Chip
10x Red Lens Standard w interchangeable Brigger mount for SLR and B4
About the size of a DVX
Record to CF Card or red drive - no tape!
720P Viewfinder and LCD w magic focus
HDSDI and HDMI outputs
Remote Control for live production, iris, focus pulling, Painting LUT's on set.
Sicko low light performance
$7500

[Erik Greensmith]

Sicko low light performance is right! This should be natural light friendly to the max.