RED 65mm

[Shawn Bannon]

RED 65mm sensor? Is RED considering this option at all? do any of RED lenses cover this area? I heard RED lenses are possibly converted still lenses which means its a possibility?

[chuck colburn]

You would need a medium format still lens to cover 65mm. Or an optically modified 35mm cine lens.

[Radoslav Karapetkov]

For Scarlet? Unlikely.

Probably for a future RED II or III.

I wonder if the current RED One body could house a 65mm-sized sensor?

Giving us the possibility to take advantage of the modular design and easier\cheaper upgrades in the future?

[Lexicon]

A RED powered IMAX camera would be awesome but probably not easy to sell since IMAX markets are limited.

[Shawn Bannon]

well maybe more like a VISTAVISION size sensor. The same size as a full frame 35mm/DSLR still camera. Do the RED lenses cover the full frame still area? roughly 36mmx24mm

[J. Bernard Vallon]

There was some speculation that the red zooms are rehoused sigma still lenses, in which case yes they probably do cover 135. Lots of folks are going the nikon road which would allow for the same. I think its a wonderful idea, maybe 5 years down the road.

[Evin Grant]

It's hard enough to pull focus at the current S35mm size.

[J. Bernard Vallon]

agreed. but just imagine how pretty it would be

[David Mullen ASC]

Just for everyone's info:
5-perf 65mm Todd-AO (2.20 : 1) is 52.48 x 23.01mm
8-perf 35mm / VistaVision (1.50 : 1) is 37.72 x 24.92mm

So a 35mm still camera lens would cover 37mm but might not cover 52mm across...

Now perhaps the quickest way to build this Super-RED would be to essentially double the Mysterium sensor horizontally and vertically, thus 48mm across... and you'd get a 8-to-9K Bayer RAW camera, but that's a lot of data. And you'd need medium format optics.

I guess, assuming the same size photosites and spacing, that a VistaVision size sensor, 37mm across, would be around 6K worth of horizontal photosites.

The Phantom 65 sensor, by the way, is 51.02 x 30.5mm (1.67 : 1) but 4096 x 2440. So you get 65mm depth of field for a 4K image, but there may be some heat & noise advantages is spreading those photosites over a larger area, and perhaps some MTF advantage from having a larger target area thus less image enlargement. Though you have to use 65mm optics.

[Shawn Bannon]

if one can pull focus on 15 perf 70mm IMAX... wether it is hard or easy isn't really of concern to many of us. we all know that the larger format sensors can look very spectacular. not for every movie but for some movies...