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  1. #1 An open letter to Red User about the Zacuto Tests 
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    As many of you know Zacuto produces a digital camera comparison every year. Were putting together our next test and well be including the Epic as many of you asked us to do last year. We want the Epic to look its very best so we are asking the Red community to nominate the best RED cinematographer and or RED technician to represent the very best Red has to offer and make your camera look the best it possibly can.

    The testing this year will be a lot different then the shootouts weve done in the past. Our administrator Bruce Logan, ASC is designing a practical scene in studio on a controlled set where we will try to emulate a real apartment location. Well have a blown out window, dark shadow areas, skin tone etc. The idea is that every Cinematographer will be allowed to adjust the lighting levels, use filters, pick lenses, change camera settings, in your case use HDRX if you want to and use a custom post workflow with color grading in order to create the best looking image out of their camera. Well be testing all of the cameras during the week of February 20-24th in Chicago.


    Zacuto will be documenting the different approaches that each Cinematographer takes with their camera and post workflow and this will be turned into episodes of our Revenge of the Great Camera Shootout 2012 documentary series. We will also be taking all of the final footage from all of the cameras tested and showing it in a series of blind screenings at NAB and throughout the world, which will also be included as commentary in our final documentary as we have done in the past. Furthermore, most of the camera companies involved are sending a representative to be on set and also be interviewed as to what is unique about their camera, technology and workflow and this invitation is also open.


    We want to be transparent with the testing process, so we are hoping that the community can give us your recommendations as to the best people to represent the Epic. The key here to remember is that your representative will have complete control to light, shoot and color grade. No one will hamper him/her to achieve their best look for the scene.


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    LOL

    For testing...

    Hire Deanan, Brook or me... :)
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    I had dinner with Steve just before he left Los Angeles and he mentioned this. I'm curious how many setups (sound like just one) you guys will be doing and what glass you'll be shooting on. Also, are you providing the Epic or is it already there?

    No harm in using HDRx, depending on the scene it may not even be necessary.

    Oddly tests like this have been going on here in LA for a while, but I understand the desire to push this into the public arena.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunleik Groven View Post
    LOL

    For testing...

    Hire Deanan, Brook or me... :)
    I'll tag along if that happens :) Heck, I'll bring a Scarlet too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Holland View Post
    I'll tag along if that happens :) Heck, I'll bring a Scarlet too.
    Great
    Hope the F65 is in the soup as well...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Lynch View Post
    ... We will also be taking all of the final footage from all of the cameras tested and showing it in a series of blind screenings at NAB and throughout the world, which will also be included as commentary in our final documentary as we have done in the past. ...
    Scott and Steve. I would strongly recommend that you have some of the screenings at houses with 4K projectors. Otherwise, the resolution differences between cameras is going to be under represented.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunleik Groven View Post
    Great
    Hope the F65 is in the soup as well...
    +1

    I'd love to see that comparison.
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    Oh, yes!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Moretti View Post
    Scott and Steve. I would strongly recommend that you have some of the screenings at houses with 4K projectors. Otherwise, the resolution differences between cameras is going to be under represented.
    scared that the epic won't shine enough in 2K?
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    I thinking Epic would shine if everything were down-rezed to SD and viewed on iPhones. The issue is how the other cameras will look at 4K.
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