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    KEEP VOTING WITH THIS THREAD GUYS... you know you all want it.!
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    Certainly gets my vote as the Pro Res/Dnxhd module or video module is the missing component preventing the Epic from being a flexible production machine. Its a real advantage if I could hand production rushes straight after a shoot as editing often starts immediately. Most productions are then happy to go back to R3D originals at the grade. I'm about to take delivery of my third Samurai and fingers crossed this one works. A self contained module is the way to go.
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    KEEP VOTING WITH THIS THREAD GUYS... you know you all want it.!
    Sorry Mark, i don't follow this time.
    1) Pix 240 is "great enough"
    2) The Adobe Premiere workflow 4KHD CS5.5 on a "poor" macbookPro is nearly good enough for me. Now, I am waiting for my next uptodate PC notebook Clevo with CS6 who should be "good enough".

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    Yes The Pix 240 is a high quality machine that does the job but I personally crave an elegant integrated lightweight module that works without me even thinking about it apart from feeding it media. As a freelance operator I have no control over post and the vast majority of my clients use FCP7 or Avid. I have yet to ever see Adobe Premiere being used in a facility. Premiere is probably superior for Red workflow but its not my call.
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    Im still testing Premier... My verdict is still not in....

    And I don;t want to lug around a Pix 240... Thats just another thing to weigh me down.

    I use the KISS theory. .... Keep it simple stupid.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Toia View Post
    Im still testing Premier... My verdict is still not in....

    And I don;t want to lug around a Pix 240... Thats just another thing to weigh me down.

    I use the KISS theory. .... Keep it simple stupid.....

    And I am a big fan of you and that theory too, but I made a try with ProRes and Pix and,finally, i found that the 4KHD and Premiere was easier. The weight is not very different (1/12 ratio versus ProRes), the Macbook does respond very well with 4K HD. Just download and edit !
    Now, I will try with an 8 core i7 384 CUDA 32G of RAM and CS6, and I think it will be again more easy !
    If somebody should have said to me that it would be so cool to work in R3D 2 years ago, I think i would not have believe him !

    Even my RedRocket Mobile seems oldfashion to me, and I am not sure anymore to need it in its thunderbolt version I am waiting for since so long !!


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    I want one! ProRes module. An external recorder works, but it's one more thing that needs external power, more SDI cables, one more thing that can fail if you're not monitoring it.
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    Really want one, like really-really :)
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    What keeps the Epic from being able to record in a "ProRes Mode" or lets say R3Dlite, REDs own cross platform 220mb data rate editorial codec. Can they not re route the 1080 feed to the SSD and make their own codec or sell a plugin like Arri does with Pro Res and DnxHD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Horwell View Post
    Great points guys, there are so many workflows, so many clients with different needs.
    There is also another potential solution. The Blackmagic Hyperdeck Shuttle and studio. The shuttle is a rechargable unit that mounts onto the camera, takes an SDI input and converts to other formats. The shuttle to
    Uncompressed QuickTime, Avid DNxHD QuickTime, Avid DNxHD MXF, all very popular formats. The studio which is a rackmount unit converts to: Uncompressed QuickTime, Apple ProRes 422 (HQ) QuickTime, Avid DNxHD QuickTime, Avid.DNxHD MXF. I am investing in the shuttle unit X 2. Many clients ask for Avid DNxHD and Arri charge 3890 Euro for the licence key!!!.. ( love the RED philosophy, upgrades are a god send )...The Hyperdeck will mount on my RED cameras and Arri so it's a bit of a no brainer. Uncompressed QT is also a very useful format. With so many 3rd parties providing alternatives, i couldn't blame RED for not developing a module. Best of all the Hyperdeck is $395.00!!!...insane. I do not work neither am i affiliated with Blackmagic. best of all i can give them the 4/5K RAW files to archive or conform , grade at their leisure.
    Hey Robert...I'm stepping in here late, but how's your experience been with the Hyperdeck Shuttle? Does it copy over the Timecode and Metadata to the proxies for a seamless uprezz later to the R3D's? Or not yet...?

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