4k / 2k PRO RES / DNxHD MODULE - who wants one.

[Mark Toia]

Ha ha you deserve to use the sad face, but you have your camera and all your bits already.. For a lot of people us getting all manufacturing hands on deck to get out go backorder gives them big smiley faces :)

Lots of cool stuff coming guys.. we just aren't talking about it a year before it's ready anymore. The competition started actually listening to us :)

Understood.

Im just happy that your making one...
cheers

[Tim Lüdin]

It's great to hear about the Prores "feed". I'm in the same boat as most of you. We all love RAW, that's why we bought our Epics and RED-Ones.
We love that stuff, but a lot of productions cry for fast turnarounds and demand a simpler workflow. I can see Jim rolling his eyes and mine are too but that's the way
business is today. In 1-2 years RAW editing will be as normal as Prores today, but not right now. Too many clients don't know how to deal with RAW and don't want to.

All you guys are talking about a module. But I heard Jarred saying "feed", he he he. Now that's when I got goosebumps. I don't want another bloody module that makes my Epic bigger and heavier again.
I want a button in the user interface that says: "Prores or RED RAW" and you choose what you want to record. That simple. The Epic has so much power it should be possible to do the Proresrecording inhouse.
You could even ad more codecs over time.

Now do that and you are the kings of kings. The Epic would become the most userfriendly camera ever built till today over night and Arri, Sony and Canon will go " what the f..ck was that", swoosh cya...

No offense but the word module makes us shiver around here. Module = more weight = killing the Epic superslick formfactor = makes my Epic look like an Alexa

Ah and yeah, REDmote Pro. I know Jarred, I won't go on.
Have a nice week-end everybody. It's Superbowl time!!!

Best
Tim

[Matt Uhry]

All you guys are talking about a module. But I heard Jarred saying "feed", he he he. Now that's when I got goosebumps. I don't want another bloody module that makes my Epic bigger and heavier again.
I want a button in the user interface that says: "Prores or RED RAW" and you choose what you want to record. That simple. The Epic has so much power it should be possible to do the Proresrecording inhouse.
You could even ad more codecs over time.

Now do that and you are the kings of kings. The Epic would become the most userfriendly camera ever built till today over night and Arri, Sony and Canon will go " what the f..ck was that", swoosh cya...


Tim

I mostly work on TV Commercials for Broadcast and sometimes internet. In that arena the Alexa shooting to Pro-Res is dominant, and the requests for more than 1080 are infrequent. Much is superior about the Epic, but the post path and the angst that it causes the agency and they then cause me is vast.

On the Epic we've already got a supercomputer and an incredibly fast way of recording - would it be possible to record baked log pro-res or dnxhd with a firmware upgrade or an alternate firmware boot ?

RGB baked 1080 1-60fps was part of the orig. spec of the Epic back when it was announced, lacking any knowledge of how to do it would it still be possible to implement ? It would be a checkmate move on Arri and nip Canon in the bud.

Thanks,
Matt Uhry
www.mattuhry.com

[Sanjin Jukic]

k

It's great to hear about the Prores "feed". I'm in the same boat as most of you. We all love RAW, that's why we bought our Epics and RED-Ones.
We love that stuff, but a lot of productions cry for fast turnarounds and demand a simpler workflow. I can see Jim rolling his eyes and mine are too but that's the way
business is today. In 1-2 years RAW editing will be as normal as Prores today, but not right now. Too many clients don't know how to deal with RAW and don't want to.

All you guys are talking about a module. But I heard Jarred saying "feed", he he he. Now that's when I got goosebumps. I don't want another bloody module that makes my Epic bigger and heavier again.
I want a button in the user interface that says: "Prores or RED RAW" and you choose what you want to record. That simple. The Epic has so much power it should be possible to do the Proresrecording inhouse.
You could even ad more codecs over time.

Now do that and you are the kings of kings. The Epic would become the most userfriendly camera ever built till today over night and Arri, Sony and Canon will go " what the f..ck was that", swoosh cya...

No offense but the word module makes us shiver around here. Module = more weight = killing the Epic superslick formfactor = makes my Epic look like an Alexa

Ah and yeah, REDmote Pro. I know Jarred, I won't go on.
Have a nice week-end everybody. It's Superbowl time!!!

Best
Tim

Tim, let you know that both Epic and Alexa still have a color shift issue, just have a look at the recent movies that were shot with those systems to find out more about it.

Wie still have to see how F65 handle all this.

[Max M.]

Tim, great idea, never thought about that as a possibility... That would be even more than insane and i would easily accept lower framerates to free up processing power to generate prores! Wow, if the camera could do that without a module, that would be f*cking unbelieveable!!!

[Jarred Land]

You guys are reaching..

[Tim Lüdin]

You started it Jarred hehe.
Or in other words, RED showed us how to think out of the box.
We just follow your path...

Keep on rocking.
Tim

[Tim Lüdin]

k

Tim, let you know that both Epic and Alexa still have a color shift issue, just have a look at the recent movies that were shot with those systems to find out more about it.

Wie still have to see how F65 handle all this.

Yo Sanjin

I don't know what you are talking about. My Epic is killer from head to toe. I get super great colors out of it every day. I do a lot of grading anyway and the shit is RAW so what's the problem.
Varial NDs can give you a much worse colorshift but you can kill it with just one click in post.

To what films are you referring to? Did Fincher give you a hint?

Sorry, but I can't see that.
Best
Tim

[David Battistella]

You guys are reaching..

I know 995 for the thunderbolt rocket is totally reaching.

Its probably more like 1995. :)


For the record. If I had the choice between a camera module that does two codecs or a computer module that does all codecs and all resolutions and realtime playback. The choice would be simple. I'd backup the data and hand the client 1080, 2k or 4k in any flavor they want.

Kerp the camera light. Keep the post "heavy".

Reiterating.

A competitively priced post module goes years into the future not months

David

[Vico Martin]

Every time I ask Red Rep about this kind of module, they say Red is not going to develop a product that is already on the market (AJA, PIX, ATOMOS...)

But I´m with Toia and everybody, we need this, personally I need it to shut up more than a producer who wants to work with Alexa.

Will see.