FINALLY!!! Got my Canon mounts and just tested the hell out of it!

[David Battistella]

Hey Mark,

Great thread. Really good info here.

I trust your judgement because you "bitchslap us with images" not with any bullishit.

Just images.

Thanks,

David

[Mark Toia]

I just finished shooting another quicky music clip for my daughter... (yes another one!)

Decided to use the CANON glass for it all... Its my first project ever using stills glass on RED, I just wanted to see all the things that would catch me out....
Better to do it on a personal project, not a paid one.

REPORT CARD:
*Shit to manually focus. (but we all new that)
*Amazingly clean edges... no vignetting.
*Sharp as... but smooth, Very smooth... Better than I hoped for.
*Great at night, smooth and creamy, little to no specular bounce, meaning good coatings.
*Low flare threshold but when there is a lens flare, its not a pretty one.
*AUTO focus on the EPIC is quick to prefocus when not recording... I really like it. No need to ZOOM in for a look, it just snaps to sharps with little hunting. Low light AF is a slower. When you roll and want to focus its abut 1/4 speed. (I'm sure this because the chip is processing information and trying to focus at the same time)
*After a bit of getting use to, I think I became faster in setting focus with canon glass than my PL glass.. Sad!
* Setting Aperture is a bore. the toggle just in front of the record button on the side grip is the logical place to have a aperture adjuster. The up and down buttons are just to slow and awkward. I'm quicker at setting the aperture with the touch screen or through the EVF through the thumb controls.

Over all rating. is 7 out of 10 from me. (which could slip out to a 8.5 out of ten if the AF gets quicker and the Aperture gets quicker to adjust and the aperture dial gets reassigned to a better place.
Put it this way, My ZIESS MKIII's I only give a 6 out of 10,

To be honest... I doubt I'd use these lenses much in the world I work in, Big crews, with big gear, big shots, cranes, heads, Mo Con etc... forget it.
But for simple arty jobs, were you want to travel around the world with a back pack shooting art, Yes please.

Here's a couple of stills from the shoot.

[David Battistella]

What makes me most happy about this is the wonderful work you are doing for your daughter. I just love that you are using your great talent for making images to help her music career.

The tests are appreciated. I found the same things with the canon glass I have used.

The 2.8 16-35 has some very weird corner blur at the wide, I find I miss the actual aperture ring. Prefer having it on the lens.
I find the 50mm 1.2 does have a really nice lowlight image and is much sharper wide open than I expected.


Thanks again for sharing Mark!

David

[Mark Toia]

I find I miss the actual aperture ring. Prefer having it on the lens.

Same... I think the NIKON glass maybe better... you get the aperture on the lens.

And thanks :)

[Nick Morrison]

Mark your Canon shots look awesome. And your "making art" comment is hilarious. You've also been a big help. I've bought a whole Contax Zeiss prime set, and your post this week has pretty much validated a lot of what I was thinking: that still lenses can do a lot of what PL glass can do, and that having a manual aperture ring is a big plus.

When I can afford real PL glass I will, but for now...I'll be happy doing art with my Zeiss primes!

Be well.

[David Battistella]

Same... I think the NIKON glass maybe better... you get the aperture on the lens.

And thanks :)

Yes.

And the Nikon Glass is really easy to declick so you can have some nice smooth flowing iris action.

The Nikon 17-35 has really nice corner sharpness but portholes a bit at 2.8, 5.6 -22 is surprisingly sharp with little distortion corner to corner.

David




David

[Nick Morrison]

Yes.

And the Nikon Glass is really easy to declick so you can have some nice smooth flowing iris action.

The Nikon 1735 has rally nice corner sharpness but portholes a bit at 2.8, 5.6 -22 is surprisingly sharp with little distortion corner to corner.

David




David

The Nikon 17-35 is a thing of legend in the still world. Not to be dramatic, or anything...

[David Battistella]

The Nikon 17-35 is a thing of legend in the still world. Not to be dramatic, or anything...

(not wanting to Jack Mark's Canon thread) :)

I have captured a boatload of EPIC material with that lens. It's really a sweet piece of glass.


David

[Nick Morrison]

(not wanting to Jack Mark's Canon thread) :)

I have captured a boatload of EPIC material with that lens. It's really a sweet piece of glass.


David

OK, won't detour too much from original thread. All I'll say is that in the still world the only lens that comes close to the Nikon 17-35 that I know of is the Contax N 17-35, but that has to be converted to EOS by Conurus, and its a royal pain in the ass.

[Demetri Zuev]

The Nikon 17-35 is a thing of legend in the still world. Not to be dramatic, or anything...

I've been shooting with 17-35 for more than a year now. Recently I've had a thought about selling it and investing the money in some primes...but what I realized 15 minutes after this thought came is that I just can't give it away, even if I won't use it on future projects I will still keep it for myself, it has a special place in my heart.

Back on topic now: Great thread, Mark, very interesting to read and full of valuable info. Have you tried to pull focus with Redmote's little wheel? I remember Jarred saying that you will be able to do that even on a regular Redmote.