New CF cards coming soon?

[Damien Molineaux]

Yes indeed.. we try and get every card as soon as it comes out.. most of the times the manufacture's speed ratings are either BS, inconsistent card to card, or they don't play nice with the way RED writes to the cards... but every once in awhile we get surprised :)

Aha! Which cards have given you pleasant surprises? How about a place, on Reduser maybe, were you could publish the results of your tests, all results. So we know which ones work, all the time, some times, or never.

Cheers,
Damien

[Joseph Hutson]

Aha! Which cards have given you pleasant surprises? How about a place, on Reduser maybe, were you could publish the results of your tests, all results. So we know which ones work, all the time, some times, or never.

Cheers,
Damien

We are so easy to please.

[Michael Hastings]

Dont worry Shawn, just because nobody is talking about them we are testing everything out there. As for sub $200 cards, as soon as we find a card that cheap that actually works, we will pass it forward.

Red One is not locked to proprietary CF.. We just lock out the high data rates where data integrity comes questionable... It is very easy to say " just put a warning on the screen " but unfortunately it doesn't work that way in the real world.. if a big budget production's data becomes corrupt, people forget the fact they used janky cards, and are quick to blame the camera. We don't want to even allow people to be put in those kinda situations.

but the warning could have a "click here to accept that use of this card may cause data corruption." and record a flag in the metadata. Maybe 2 tiered override where you have a mode in the setup menus that says "Allow use of potentially janky cards" plus the click here override for each card.

Just seems that the owner/user should have some way to make their own choice.

[Jeff Kilgroe]

but the warning could have a "click here to accept that use of this card may cause data corruption." and record a flag in the metadata. Maybe 2 tiered override where you have a mode in the setup menus that says "Allow use of potentially janky cards" plus the click here override for each card.

Just seems that the owner/user should have some way to make their own choice.

I know where you're coming from on this... However, it doesn't matter if it's just a simple warning or if it's redundant warnings with a funky key combination to allow use of the card. At the end of the day, when things go wrong, people still point fingers.

What confuses me is the number of people who are just assuming that there's cards out there that will work properly. And that by putting a simple warning on the camera, it will enable them to record at 4K to these cards. Or perhaps people are thinking that if the camera was unlocked that they could try out all these new cards on their own. Maybe that's the case, I don't know...

It also confuses the whole situation when various manufacturers keep announcing new CF products that look like they may work. And yet many of these announced cards are still not available for purchase, yet people keep talking about them on the forums, wondering if they'll work.

[Jarred Land]

Aha! Which cards have given you pleasant surprises? How about a place, on Reduser maybe, were you could publish the results of your tests, all results. So we know which ones work, all the time, some times, or never.

Cheers,
Damien

we have NDA's with most of the manufactures to get engineering samples early.. so can't name names. The 16gb cards we had to get custom made because nobody would step up to the plate.. we were about a year ahead of everyone in sustained speed requirements ( hence the cost ) Good thing though is that everyone will catch up by themselves eventually... it is the benefit of using a consumer format. The downside of that is people expect consumer prices.. which won't happen as we always ride the bleeding edge.

If you look at the P2 card for example though you guys are still in good shape.. as a 32GB card costs $1600 and a 16GB card costs $900.

If there is one thing I can guarantee.. is that when our 32GB card comes out, its not going to cost you $1600. :)

And then there are these SDXC cards that are starting to pop-up, they look like they have the ability to hit some pretty high speeds and capacities, although SD cards seem to be alot less durable and much easier to loose :(

[Tony Lorentzen]

Maybe you could make a SATA interface for raw SSD disks instead :-)

[Jarred Land]

Maybe you could make a SATA interface for raw SSD disks instead :-)

That's what it is ( SATA ).. cant use RAW SSD disks though, the insertion rate on the contacts fail after 500 times.

[Raul Gonzo]

That's what it is ( SATA ).. cant use RAW SSD disks though, the insertion rate on the contacts fail after 500 times.

wow, you guys are kidding when you say you do thorough testing

[Shawn Nelson]

Dont worry Shawn, just because nobody is talking about them we are testing everything out there. As for sub $200 cards, as soon as we find a card that cheap that actually works, we will pass it forward.

Red One is not locked to proprietary CF.. We just lock out the high data rates where data integrity comes questionable... It is very easy to say " just put a warning on the screen " but unfortunately it doesn't work that way in the real world.. if a big budget production's data becomes corrupt, people forget the fact they used janky cards, and are quick to blame the camera. We don't want to even allow people to be put in those kinda situations.

Thanks for the update Jarred, I appreciate it. I'll remain optimistic that $200 16gb and $500 32gb cards are soon. Meanwhile I'll keep my 10 8gb cards working hard!

[Dancsó Péter]

Will it be possible to use different CF cards with the Scarlet? If yes, what are the differences from RED CF cards?