How will workflow go from Red to Avid HD?

[TellStories]

Will this talk Avid? How will the workflow go? Will it go to some sort of HD intermediate formate to be used with Avid? I'm ready to sell the farm here, I just only edit in Avid.

Rob
dir. Squeeze (Miramax)
dir. Body Count (Polygram)
dir. Turntable (Vivendi Visual Ent.)

[Jim Exton]

After processing the Raw footage, you will be able to export using whatever codec you have installed on your computer.

So yes, you can use Avids HD codec.

[Stuart English]

Until such time as NLE systems are able to read REDCODE directly (and we do understand that this is the ideal scenario, but we also understand history tells us that there has always been a lag between developing a new codec and getting the NLE industry to adopt it) re-coding is the best path to NLE compatibility.

i.e REDCINE reads the REDCODE codec footage, and re-encodes it to a codec format that your NLE does support. That could be M-JPEG (pretty much universal support) DVCPRO HD or uncompressed HD (wide spread support) or DPX / TIFF or other more specialized codecs. As long as the codec is available to be used (not restricted by a license) then REDCINE is in position to exploit that codec.

[TellStories]

What do yo mean by processing the footage? Is that what the RedCine does or is that simply a telecine product? When downloading the Raid into the NLE is that the processing?

My friend Bill Warner (Avid Inventor) and I are sitting here dying to know.

Rob

[Poi Boy]

name droper. (kidding)
-A

[david farland]

Stuart,
Will Redcine be able to output high bandwidth DNxHD files as though they were output from an Avid Adrenline HD box, and then have these DNxHD files edited natively in one of Avid's NLEs?

I'm hoping Bill made such a 'open' system that we can.

DF

[Stuart English]

I need to add this comment - I was answering Tell Stories question .. posts got out of sync

" What do yo mean by processing the footage? Is that what the RedCine does or is that simply a telecine product? When downloading the Raid into the NLE is that the processing?"

Yes,

Go here ... http://red.com/workflow.htm

Any questions, post here...

[david farland]

Thanks Stuart, I presume you mean 10bit 4:2:2 option.

I like the Avid system and its layout & stability blah blah.

I see DNxHN goes up to 10bit 250Mb/sec but that is probably a little less quality (sorry Bill) than RedCode's maximum output quality.
Thou I expect I can ‘work’ Avid DNxHD files quite a bit without them breaking up and would only have to do one extra codec migration (Redcode to DNxHD) at the onset.
Can I conform my Redcode master files to my Avid offline DNxHD files?
What Avid effects i.e dissolves, cc, etc will be carried over when I do conform?
DF

[Stuart English]

David. To clarify, REDCINE isn't a conform tool. Its a pre-editorial and pre-conform tool.

You process video from RAW to RGB space performing the equivalent of a one-light color correction. You may then scale and encode the files to whatever codec is available to you for off-line use. (I can't comment about any specific NLE's codec availability outside this general comment)

Once the off-line is performed, a PULL LIST is generated, which REDCINE uses to re-scale and re-export the footage in the required finishing quality. That might be 10 bit 4:2:2 uncompressed or 4K DPX for a DI to 35mm film for example.

[david farland]

Thanks very much...appreciated
DF