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    Hi all. . .

    Let's assume we got a great performance but the shot ends up pretty soft in a spot or two and there's no way to cut away. Are there any programs that can realistically sharpen focus on otherwise soft shots? And if so, are any of these programs available as plug-ins for Premiere Pro? Finally, what are the trade-offs involved in using such a fix (if it indeed exists at all).

    Thanks much.

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    If memory serves, I think Adobe is coming with something like that in Photoshop... probably the next release. But as far as something for moving pics, not that I know about. But if they can do it to a single image, eventually they will be able to do it to moving images.
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    my suggestion: try to animate a little sharpening in the spot and see where that gets you. otherwise, animate the blur to be consistent, then apply subtle sharpening over the entire shot. anything more serious than that calls for lots of $$$'s in post or a reshoot. unfortunately, there's not any magic solution to cure focus issues.

    elsie, the thing your thinking of calculates camera shake and tries to correct the motion blur for it. as far as i'm aware, that will not help shots that are simply out of focus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulherrin View Post
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    elsie, the thing your thinking of calculates camera shake and tries to correct the motion blur for it. as far as i'm aware, that will not help shots that are simply out of focus.
    Paul, I may have dreamed this but I really think I saw something, and I thought it was here on Reduser, that suggested Adobe had actually managed to take a single out-of-focus photo into Photoshop and re-focus it. But I have no link to anything relating to that, so it could be as you say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elsie N View Post
    Paul, I may have dreamed this but I really think I saw something, and I thought it was here on Reduser, that suggested Adobe had actually managed to take a single out-of-focus photo into Photoshop and re-focus it. But I have no link to anything relating to that, so it could be as you say.
    Elsie, I think this is what your talking about. I saw this a while ago...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Ryan View Post
    Elsie, I think this is what your talking about. I saw this a while ago...

    Matt, yes. This is what I was thinking of and according to this it is as Paul said and probably not what the OP was asking for. Thanks for the memory correction.
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    Furnace on Discreet and now on Nuke is a bit helpfull on this subjects.
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    An out of focus shot is essentially a low-passed image where spatial frequencies beyond a certain point (which point depends on the degree of softness, the extent to which the shot was 'buzzed') are not recorded.

    These high frequencies are impossible to recover.

    You can do various kinds of 'sharpening' passes that might, if used correctly, help make a slightly soft shot less noticeable.

    I'm not a post expert. In terms of physics, it would be possible to synthesise high frequency information based on the existing information, in the same way that in sound mixing, exciters and sub frequency enhancers can be used to synthesise harmonics and sub-harmonics that are not really there. If this technology existed, and I don't know if it does, it would help lessen the perception of softness and would be most effective if used on subtly out of focus material for short durations.
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    Sorry, just had to:
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    Yep, Martin. . . that's EXACTLY what I need about now!

    Too bad it only exists in the movies. . .

    . . . just not my movies.

    :-(

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