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    Hey guys. I completely forgot to change the project frame rate to 30fps; I left it at 24FPS, however I shot at 30FPS. Now the video and audio are out of synch, video plays slower than audio regardless if I change the project properties on my NLE to 30FPS. Anyone know a quick fix to this?

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    When you export from RCX-P you can choose the overwrite the clips framerate. That might fix it.
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    Steve>

    That didn't work, unfortunately. The workaround can be done 2 ways:


    1) Cut/Edit the video by playing it at a faster playrate (1.25) so it syncs with the audio, OR
    2) Cut/Edit the video by slowing down the audio by 75%.

    I tried both of the above, and they work directly with the RED files. When I try it with exported .MOV files it falls apart...weird.



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    When you export from RCX-P you can choose the overwrite the clips framerate. That might fix it.
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    I feel for you guys that have to shoot, 30, 29.97, 24... Such as crazy mismatch system you have over there.

    I'm glad us (the rest of the world) shoot @25fps... we never get caught out. ... ooops, I think i just jinxed myself.

    What I have done in the past, and it wasn't pretty is I did a time squeeze.
    I got my shot in the FCP time line. I put the audio track beneath it... cut on the clapper and cut on the end shot and voice.
    then kept adjusting the audio speed bit at a time, I think I ended up at 102.33% something like that... and it worked.
    Painful exercises, but it worked.
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    what mark said - i did something similar in avid, timestretching the audio there.
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    Can't stretch the audio as this is a music video. So you know a little bit of my setup, I had a Zoom H2N on site recording the whole time while huge speakers played the mp3 over and over. When I stopped recording I had a guy on video with the clapper.

    Anyways, its going to be a painful exercise by the sounds of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcos Montenegro View Post
    Steve>

    That didn't work, unfortunately. The workaround can be done 2 ways:


    1) Cut/Edit the video by playing it at a faster playrate (1.25) so it syncs with the audio, OR
    2) Cut/Edit the video by slowing down the audio by 75%.

    I tried both of the above, and they work directly with the RED files. When I try it with exported .MOV files it falls apart...weird.
    In Premiere or After Effects, you can change the file's frame rate very easily. Right-click on the file in the project window and choose "Modify-Interpret Footage" and you'll get a window where you can specify the frame rate you want the clip to use. This is not a "speed change" effect like time compression, it actually changes the way the program interprets the project frame rate. So there will be no artifacts.

    Download a trial version and try it out.
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    David:

    I will try this and let you know.

    Thanks for the tip!

    Marcos

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    In Premiere or After Effects, you can change the file's frame rate very easily. Right-click on the file in the project window and choose "Modify-Interpret Footage" and you'll get a window where you can specify the frame rate you want the clip to use. This is not a "speed change" effect like time compression, it actually changes the way the program interprets the project frame rate. So there will be no artifacts.

    Download a trial version and try it out.
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    ...But the run-time of the video will change significantly, throwing it out of sync with the audio. It sounds like you'll need to do an edit with lots of cuts, re-syncing each cut manually and holding it only as long as it appears reasonably in sync.
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