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    Isn't the dolby $31,000?

    Kinda steep me thinks. (for me that is)
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    I'd talk to them about what might be avb after NAB, i doubt they would get near the $ of the low end OLED, but if i was looking at the coin for the BVM version of the OLED that does P3.. well they are not that far apart

    Diffrent ball game if the options are the low end OLED -or- Pana Plasma + callibration -or- Flanders

    and diffrent again if the options are a ageing and unstable FW900 (and 99% of them are unstable by now) -or- a Pana Plasma w/o callibration -or- Dreamcolor

    A good FW900 would be a find, and if you can get a couple of years out of it.. awesome...

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    Really? The Dolby HDR monitor is better than the high end BVM OLEDs from Sony? Wow. I didn't know LED modulated LCD displays could actually match OLEDs in black level and uniformity.
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    Really? The Dolby HDR monitor is better than the high end BVM OLEDs from Sony? Wow. I didn't know LED modulated LCD displays could actually match OLEDs in black level and uniformity.
    Dolby can do it, at a price tho.. don't know what the special sauce is, but special it is... yesterday i screened the 709 trim pass of a film i graded at my place on the Dolby, then went 10 min down the road and watched the same film over again from the HDSR master on the BVM for QC... same / same

    The larger size of the Dolby really helps when judging noise reduction and sharpening.. and both seem the same in P3, so if one could get into the Dolby for a small up-charge over the BVM, i would be looking at the options... esp if (like me) you do not have the space for a projector

    Caveat is that i have not seen the two of them side by side

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    If money were no object, I would go for Dolby with no hesitation. 34" is just about perfect size for the grading monitor. To me 24" is too small and 58" plasma I have is way too big.
    Dolby perfected the LED backlighting, technology resulting in the best monitor money can buy. Watching images at 600 nits is astounding. But 30-40K for the monitor is way out of the price range for me. I'm definitely will be curios about SONY OLED PVM at NAB.
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    I'm curious if there will be price cuts for the Sony BVM-Es at NAB. After all, they introduced the BVM-F series because the Es weren't selling too well, right?

    Is there any difference to the BVM-E/F panels in reality or is this marketing piece just a bunch of BS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jake blackstone View Post
    If money were no object, I would go for Dolby with no hesitation. 34" is just about perfect size for the grading monitor. To me 24" is too small and 58" plasma I have is way too big.
    Dolby perfected the LED backlighting, technology resulting in the best monitor money can buy. Watching images at 600 nits is astounding. But 30-40K for the monitor is way out of the price range for me. I'm definitely will be curios about SONY OLED PVM at NAB.
    Hi Jake

    What is your advice for $3k 'ish for someone starting out? FSI .... Panasonic?

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    The best display depends on the actual requirements for the project, and the available calibration tools.

    I've calibrated just about all displays and projectors available, and there really is no single answer.

    But, a big plasma with good calibration can be good, so long as you understand the 'power save' issues that all plasmas have.

    Having said that, I probable calibrate more plasmas in grading suites than any other display. Good blacks, good gaumt (required for accurate calibration) and chap for large screen sizes.

    A good LCD is better, as is has no power save issues, but can have viewing angle problems.

    For 'film grading' I always prefer to use a digital projector.

    For calibration I will obviously suggest LightSpace CMS - http://www.lightillusion.com/lightspace.html

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    A good LCD is better, as is has no power save issues, but can have viewing angle problems.
    Hi Steve, what LCD wold you recommend as say a 50" client monitor?

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    Hi Barend, we are presently working with Penta on their StudioLine2 monitors...

    They are probably the best LCDS I've seen so far, at a good price point, and will be fully compatible with LightSpace CMS for calibration ;o)
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