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    hi steve ,
    what is the price of the penta ?
    why you say ""will be fully"" compatible ? meaning that will load lut internally ?

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    Hi G,

    Price depends on the size... best to contact Karlheinz at Penta directly and ask him ;o)

    And yep, you will be able to connect LightSpace to the display directly for calibration, and then load the generated LUT into the display, providing fully closed loop calibration. We have a beat version of this on teat already, and the full release should be in a few weeks.

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    nice ...

    i actually just emailed ... :)
    ps: i guess blacks not like plasma tough or good blacks ?...and ""only "" rec 709 capable ...i mean no P3 right ?

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    Actually, good blacks, and no 'noise' like a plasma!
    All displays I have tested, other than the Dolby, cannot make P3 accurately...

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    Panasonic discontinued a lot of their smaller plasmas...we don't have room for bigger than 42'' so....not sure it's an option anymore.

    Will a high quality LCD HDTV work if I calibrate it (with chroma pure and a spider ii probe?). Obviously the viewing angle will be an issue, but we can live with that if it's okay otherwise. This will be for color grading via hdmi out from a black magic card--not for a post house, but just for in-house grading of ads and indie stuff so we won't have any clients checking it out and 95% perfect is a lot better than what we had before (a 90s-era low end CRT computer monitor and magic bullet looks).
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    Please see the 'plasma' thread on the Light Illusion forums.

    http://www.lightillusion.com/forums/...rum=8&topic=42

    You should find the information there of some help - especially regarding calibration.
    But I will say I do not view ChromaPure as being suitable for professional level calibration - especially for Plasmas due to the ABL operation all plasmas have.
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    Thanks. How about a Sony Bravia 32'' LCD HDTV? Any better or worse? Only a few hundred dollars but apparently very color accurate out of the box? Of course the viewing angle will be bad, but it's better than nothing and has none of the issues with plasma. We can calibrate with calman or chroma pure, and with whatever probes those packages include or like a spyder probe or something. Input via blackmagic intensity, we're grading in either Color or Resolve from prores files (Alexa, Red, dSLR, etc.).

    I get that this isn't really sufficient for a post house but none of this is for high end work. I get that a full fledged post house would have much better equipment, but we're producing very cheesy, inexpensive content (our last feature was graded from DP dailies scanned to D5 rather than the supervised transfer to .dpx that the lab all-but insisted on, of course I found out about this after I finished grading it on a poorly calibrated monitor). It's not my money or gear so I'll take what I can get, but last time we went out to DCP there were (very) slight differences in black level and saturation relative to the monitor I was grading on, so I want to eliminate those to whatever extent possible. If this sounds horrifying, it might be, but I'd rather mitigate things than throw in the towel.
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