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    One of the rental houses here in stockholm has one and they usually shows a lot of tests and so on. But for this specific camera it has been dead silent from them.. and it has just been sitting there for a couple of weeks now.. The Alexa studio they got has been rented out from day one...
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    A DP friend of mine did tell me that the DR on the F65 was surprisingly disappointing. I might be shooting on one later this month, so I will report back about it if that happens.

    One potentially interesting thing about the F65 is that the full 8K sensor info will probably be available with new software down the road. This could be of interest to IMAX shooters.

    Hopefully Red is getting ready to up the sperm count on their new sensor as well, to make Epic more IMAX friendly in terms of resolution. When you have to crop for 3:2, you lose a lot of data!!
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    very true very true. Def keep me posted Tom. what is the rated DR? Is it comparable to RED w/o HDR? Is it going to be full 8k out to recorder or does it record 8k internal? I read it was only 4k output max.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Domenic Barbero View Post
    Is it going to be full 8k out to recorder or does it record 8k internal? I read it was only 4k output max.
    According to Graeme Nattress, it's not capable of 8K because it doesn't actually have an 8K sensor: see his comments here
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    Sony had a big demo down at the studio last week. Showed some new stuff shot by Curtis Clark, ASC. I shot some tests in December. M. Night is shooting his new film on it right now as is the Tom Cruise film "Oblivion". I believe eventually it will be able to shoot 120 fps. Surprisingly, (or not so much) on the Tom Cruise film they have a couple of Epics for when they need 120fps and/or a smaller camera.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Lowe View Post
    Looked great. Thanks to Jim holding a gun to Sony's head, they have finally started to take 4K seriously. The footage looks great, but the camera is gigantic in size. It also cannot overcrank much. The compression is 3:1 I believe, coming off a 16-bit camera, so while the file size is large, it is not insanely large.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Lyons Collister, ASC View Post
    Sony had a big demo down at the studio last week. Showed some new stuff shot by Curtis Clark, ASC. I shot some tests in December. M. Night is shooting his new film on it right now as is the Tom Cruise film "Oblivion". I believe eventually it will be able to shoot 120 fps. Surprisingly, (or not so much) on the Tom Cruise film they have a couple of Epics for when they need 120fps and/or a smaller camera.
    read this on keslow website http://www.keslowcamera.com/blog-wp/...-aka-oblivion/

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    This guy have a lot of tests for day and night:
    https://vimeo.com/37256338
    The night shots look nice but check it out those clippings on highlights. I love HDRX.
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    man paulo i hate internet compression. I bet the footage looks pretty good. I noticed a bit of rolling shutter in that piece. interesting. I wonder how funtional the camera is to work with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Domenic Barbero View Post
    man paulo i hate internet compression. I bet the footage looks pretty good. I noticed a bit of rolling shutter in that piece.
    The F65 has a mechanical shutter option that essentially eliminates all rolling shutter artifacts.

    Someone characterized the F65 as "very expensive." That is really not the case. It is cost competitive with both the Alexa and the Epic M at around $65K for the basic package and about $85K for a package that includes the mechanical shutter, a recorder, a 1TB memory module, and a transfer deck. None of these products are aimed at hobbyists, and are priced accordingly for the market they are intended for. The choice of any of these products should be and largely is based on specific needs in terms of form factor, specific features, personal experience, and most of all the images they produce, and which one is deemed the most appropriate for a particular project (note that price is not even included in that list). That's one reason why at this point in time, Epic is a very popular and appropriate choice for projects that either require a lot of hand held work or are stereoscopic 3D, due to the rather tiny form factor and large bang for the buck. Alexa is the most common choice for television in large part due to its simplicity, but also due to its generally highly regarded images and wide dynamic range. The F65 will eventually find its own niche, although it is possible and even somewhat likely that if you're shooting a picture (or TV series) for Sony Pictures, you might be "encouraged" to take a look at it...
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