Anyone seen footage from sony F65?

[M Most]

Is a discussion about the size and weight trends in cameras "missing the most important criteria of all: image characteristics"? The general idea behind this discussion revolves around whether the F65 might have been made smaller and lighter (without compromising its image quality)..

The discussion may revolve around that, but Mark's chart - which is what I referred to - does not. It revolves around specific criteria that are important to him, which happens to include size and weight, but also includes a lot of other things like price, upgradeabiliity, dynamic range, available frame rates, work flow considerations, resolution, and a few other items that have nothing to do with size or weight. I simply added one more item to that list.

[Tom Lowe]

Actually, I think once you hang a viewfinder, a Redmote, rails, a big battery, and a Pix on a Red Camera, it's about the same size. Check this out:

The Epic and the F65 are not even close in size. Try doing this with an F65...

[Tom Lowe]

Thanks for the propaganda which does nothing more than add to the huge amount of more misinformation floating around out there about each camera system's capabilities, very productive. How long did it take you to make that check list?

Any more posts like this and the thread will be closed. Do not make personal attacks against people, claiming that their contribution to the thread is "propaganda." Do it again and you will be banned. This type of negative behavior is not allowed here, Adam S.

[Craig W. Bickerstaff]

The Epic and the F65 are not even close in size. Try doing this with an F65...

It wouldn't be impossible just a bit harder.

[Tom Lowe]

Lol if you saw the rocks I had to scramble over to even get to that spot, your opinion might change.

[Craig W. Bickerstaff]

Lol if you saw the rocks I had to scramble over to even get to that spot, your opinion might change.

Could it be any harder then when those crazy people dragged an IMAX camera up mount everest?

[Tom Lowe]

Well about 5 mins before that picture above was taken, I was carrying the epic in one hand and scrambling out over some very slick rocks. I took a bad fall, and the Epic came very, very close to being dropped in the water when I feel. Sheer luck that it survived that day. Sure there might be some kind of superman/rock climber who could have carried the F65 out onto that rock and taken some footage... I but personally could not have.

[Jannard]

The Sony F65 is a worthy competitor. It is 8K (really 4K) but close enough...

We love that others have acknowledged that 1080P is not good enough.

Now... pick a camera that fits your size, price and shoots RAW.

It is amazing to me that after we set the mark... the big guys still come up short. Knowing that I will piss them off with this statement... they will be motivated. It is a good thing that we have lots tucked away for the future...

Jim

[Domenic Barbero]

The Camera will always be second to story, but a good camera can make a good story that much better. Im glad RED and others are there to help us tell our stories.

[Andrew M.]

I wish you were a betting man, i'd love to drop $10k on that bet

The F65 is going to be a big success, in my opinion... and Sony seem to be aggressively settings themselves up in every niche area of the cinema business.

Jay, you must know something that I don't .....?

I bet bit more than 10K against Nortel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nortel

Producer of legacy equipment, well if there is any lesson to be learned....

http://orangecone.com/archives/2006/...-driven_p.html

"If there isn't a user-guided vision at the center of that unification, it's going to fail as quickly as the islands of engineering utopias."

Don't see the budget any bigger for this?

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/fina.../2011/p13.html