Not by any stretch a knockout punch.
Feature RED Scarlet-X Canon 1D-C Price (shooting package) ~$16.5k* ~$16.5k* 4k fps 30p 24p 4k Sensor Size s35 APS-H Low Light Noise Good Great RAW Yes No Bit Depth 16bps (14?) 8bps Chroma Sampling ~4:4:4 4:2:2 Dynamic Range ~13 stops ~13+?? Rolling Shutter ?? ?? Debayer Full Binning Footage Processing Time Eons None Weight 8 lbs + < 5 lbs Volume Little Noisy Silent SDI/HDMI Output 10bit 8bit Expandability Sensor Upgrade Sell/Repurchase Stills 5k APS-H @ 12fps RAW *5k FF35 @ 12fps RAW Lens Mount Interchangeable Fixed Integrated HDR Yes No Availability In-Stock "by End of 2012"
And by the time the 1D-C is out we'll have Dragon-Scarlet most likely. But the 1D-C does look like a good 4k lightweight self-sustained documentary camera. Much easier to load up on CF-Cards and hit the wilds than a laptop and REDCard reader.
$11,700 (body, SSD drive, Al Mount)
$1,500 (5" Touchscreen)
$1900 (2x 64GB cards)
$600 (x V-Mount)
$400 (4x 95wh batteries Axrtec)
$200 (V-Mount Charger)
$200 (Redstation USB3)
$200 (x SideHandle)
$15,000 (body, mount etc)
$690 (6x LP-E4 Batteries)
$879 (2x SanDisk Extreme Pro 64GB Cards) (Is this fair? Will it use substantially less space than a Scarlet?)
$450 (SmallHD 4" LCD) (Is the new 1D's LCD usable?)
I bought into RED because of the upgrades and loyalty they show to their customers. I knew at some point the other camera companies would have similar products, but they WON'T be upgrading your sensor any time soon. Just ask everyone that bought a C-300.
Hmm, agree, Gavin. However... also in Canon C300's favor:
1. cost of media
2. uncropped nice downscaled 1080p / 60
3. light weight
4. battery life
5. top-of-class still photo ability
6. greater chance of actually playing back a PJPEG 4K file without a CANONROCKET
Look, there's no way in hell I'm buying this stupid 1D-C thing as a hobby toy... apart from total lack of funds, personally I think that Sony's going to do a 4K video DSLR for muuuuch cheaper within the next year or two.
I wouldn't buy it for pro use either... unless I was planning on shooting some guerrilla thing, in which case, shooting 4K with something that looks like a DSLR could save me $15,000 in permits :) I for one have a vivid memory of lugging a RED ONE around while being chased by an official on a bicycle... with this thing nobody would have looked twice!
Personally I think that this is Canon's defensive move against RED's DSMC intiative. Let's face it, there are a lot of fashion photographers who are... well, kinda nitwits. They probably are worried about Epic / Scarlet... but really have NO CLUE how to handle an R3D and if given half a chance they'd much rather stick with their Canons. So this gives them an excuse to buy a new cam and pretend that they are future-proof. Well, at least they can tell their clients "IT SHOOTS 4K!". And hey... it will shoot great stills and video that'll look really sharp on a laptop - and in the end of the day, I think that's all some people want.
Also, once you scale down a normally-noisy 4K 8-bit file to HD, you have more like 9-bit... as long as it didn't macroblock.
And when you apply noise reduction, that can sometimes create in-between tones.
So yeah, 8-bit can be decent. A bit worried about when they stick the PJPEG compression on top of that, though...
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