Avid Symphony 6 Crossgrade

[Peter Moretti]

Symphony and MC both can work natively with .R3D files. So I'm not sure why you're saying that "RAW is a needed option in 2012." But perhaps I'm missing something.

[Dermot]

The answer could be as easy as having Symphony & Resolve and bouncing over when needed... That's pretty much what we've been doing w/FCP & Color and apparently will be doing w/Adobe PP & Speedgrade.

Baslight plug-in for MC/Symp may take the need for roundtrips out of the equation... if it's RT... if if if.... as others have noted, R3D's run on the timeline

The sys you don't have to do that in is Smoke. But getting used to Smoke is pretty daunting; I remember many late nights when I was picking it up. Plus editing w/it is cumbersome.

Smacks disfunctional cc has not been changed, same old, same old, no RT, render everything, to work with masks means losing context... you need roundtripping there more than Symp...

[Job ter Burg]

if it's RT... if if if.

Backroom reports say: a lot of RT performance, even though it's AVX.

[Dermot]

Backroom reports say: a lot of RT performance, even though it's AVX.

Awesome!

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[Steve Sherrick]

Job, Dermot any timetable on release of the Baselight plugin? I've been very impressed with what they were able to do with FCP. For someone who is editing and wants to do the first round of CC, eventually handing off to a Baselight system with a professional colorist this is a very cool workflow. And for those jobs where the editor has to do the CC themselves, what a great tool to have right inside the NLE. I love Resolve, but have to admit that there are times when roundtripping is not possible due to time and budget. So big questions for me.

- When does it ship?
- Will price still be $999
- Are there any hardware requirements, such as specific GFX cards or video I/O?
- Does it work just like the FCP plugin or is it more like Boris Avid FX?
- Does it have window tracking?
- Is it a realtime effect or does everything have to be rendered?
- How much overall horsepower is needed? For example, do you need latest and greatest CPU hardware?

Thanks guys!

[Nick Morrison]

Job, Dermot any timetable on release of the Baselight plugin? I've been very impressed with what they were able to do with FCP. For someone who is editing and wants to do the first round of CC, eventually handing off to a Baselight system with a professional colorist this is a very cool workflow. And for those jobs where the editor has to do the CC themselves, what a great tool to have right inside the NLE. I love Resolve, but have to admit that there are times when roundtripping is not possible due to time and budget. So big questions for me.

- When does it ship?
- Will price still be $999
- Are there any hardware requirements, such as specific GFX cards or video I/O?
- Does it work just like the FCP plugin or is it more like Boris Avid FX?
- Does it have window tracking?
- Is it a realtime effect or does everything have to be rendered?
- How much overall horsepower is needed? For example, do you need latest and greatest CPU hardware?

Thanks guys!

Be very interested to find out these answers as well. We have an Avid Symphony and the prospect of having baselight incorporated in sounds great.

[Job ter Burg]

any timetable on release of the Baselight plugin?

Mac first, Win to follow, no date set yet.
Here's a FAQ.
That's pretty much all I know. There may be some info dripping in from the backrooms at NAB.

From Twitter:
"plugin for avid is GPU enabled! (1 GPU only)"
"just looking at demo but it's very #baselight like. Like the #fcp version"

[Steve Sherrick]

Mac first, Win to follow, no date set yet.
Here's a FAQ.
That's pretty much all I know. There may be some info dripping in from the backrooms at NAB.

From Twitter:
"plugin for avid is GPU enabled! (1 GPU only)"
"just looking at demo but it's very #baselight like. Like the #fcp version"

Thanks Job! Sounds like this is going to be great.

[MichaelP]

The demo I saw looked really good, and having the ability to share the "grade" with both on set and full base light makes it a very flexible and high quality tool for managing the look from capture to finish. One of the few things remaining is the ability to output to a grading monitor or set of external scopes which is being worked on. For now, the viewer is the screen you're working on. But the demo I saw, it was very responsive and of course the amount of control you have is great... finally in Media Composer! ;)

I am sure other vendors will look to the same AVX plug-in to offer similar functionality, but for $995 it's a no-brainer. How many here would buy this rather than the crossgrade to a Symphony for the same money? Makes for an interesting discussion.

Michael

[Job ter Burg]

Michael, I like having relational CC in Symphony, which I use (almost exclusively) for offline editing (where relational CC makes a lot of sense when matching setups). And the FCP crossgrade price is great. So is the offer for those still on Xpress Pro or older MC's. It's pretty painful for those who upgraded to MC6 and BCC just before NAB.

I'm pretty worried how ugly things will turn when FCP and XpressPro crossgraders move to Symphony, and then may very well find themselves being charged way more than they were used to for upgrades and such (although Symph upgrade pricing has gone in many different directions and it is currently equal to MC).

Other than that, Symphony has lost its right to exist as a separate product for quite some time. It's MC plus 1.5 features. So it makes me wonder: is this the last bit of juice squeezed from Symphony or will Avid actually add significant features to Symphony that will give it a premium value.... Time will tell.

Happy to own a Symph, not going to move all my licenses to Symph though.