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  1. #1 Way to really speed up CS6! 
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    I read about these in EE Times a while back. PCIe is massively faster than SATA, so this is a radically better way to use Flash. Apparently, Adobe thinks so too! Of course, I'm out of PCIe slots, so I'm out of luck until my next box.

    http://www.storagereview.com/fusioni..._with_new_iofx
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    It was great to see Steve Forde (After Effects product manager) demonstrate and discuss this with Steve Wozniak at the keynote presentation at NAB.
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    OCZ Revo drives look like the same thing and have been out for a couple of years now. Pretty expensive, but for the bandwidth, not too bad. Takes a little tinkering as I understand it, to make it bootable.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227740


    And it only uses a single lane PCIe slot.

    EDIT: I stand corrected. The picture looks like a single lane slot connection but the specs refer to an x4 lane interface.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd Kopriva View Post
    It was great to see Steve Forde (After Effects product manager) demonstrate and discuss this with Steve Wozniak at the keynote presentation at NAB.
    Todd, is the Revo drive also supported?
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    As great as the tools are right now, I still feel we're a few years behind in some areas. I recognize the challenges with high resolution imagery and I don't doubt the enormous effort put into striving for faster processes, but months to render one shot to me means the industry could really use a game changer. One of the frustrations I've always had with After Effects is how long certain tasks take, even in HD res. I'm very much a "think it-do it" kind of person and I am looking forward to the day when we'll be pushing this stuff around without all the bottlenecks in place. Hopefully that's what we're starting to see happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Sherrick View Post
    As great as the tools are right now, I still feel we're a few years behind in some areas. I recognize the challenges with high resolution imagery and I don't doubt the enormous effort put into striving for faster processes, but months to render one shot to me means the industry could really use a game changer. One of the frustrations I've always had with After Effects is how long certain tasks take, even in HD res. I'm very much a "think it-do it" kind of person and I am looking forward to the day when we'll be pushing this stuff around without all the bottlenecks in place. Hopefully that's what we're starting to see happen.
    I agree Steve. From reading some of the claims about this type of solution, it sounds like we may be getting away from the need for excessive cores and threads and being able to make the computers we have faster (while using Adobe, anyway) just by moving from SATA connectors to PCIe connections. I already am thinking I can get one of the REVO cards (less expensive than the Fusion-io but not quite as fast, perhaps) and bump up my CS6 work and when done, save it to a SATA HDD. I was thinking I needed to build a new computer with Dragon coming, but now I'm thinking, maybe not. Two of these in a RAID 0 could make your headspin!
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    Any SSD Drive suggestions for the new cache enhancements of cs6 (I am on a sandybridge intel/windows system)? I'm thinking of upgrading my systems with SSD in the next few weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PatrickFaith View Post
    Any SSD Drive suggestions for the new cache enhancements of cs6 (I am on a sandybridge intel/windows system)? I'm thinking of upgrading my systems with SSD in the next few weeks.
    Patrick, I am in no way recommending the hybrid one in this link, but it is rather intriguing. Still, it requires PCIe x4 slot instead of SATA. And 1 TB is a real plus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Sherrick View Post
    As great as the tools are right now, I still feel we're a few years behind in some areas. I recognize the challenges with high resolution imagery and I don't doubt the enormous effort put into striving for faster processes, but months to render one shot to me means the industry could really use a game changer. One of the frustrations I've always had with After Effects is how long certain tasks take, even in HD res. I'm very much a "think it-do it" kind of person and I am looking forward to the day when we'll be pushing this stuff around without all the bottlenecks in place. Hopefully that's what we're starting to see happen.
    If Hugo was posted using either ArriRAW and/or DPX, I can understand the render times and the need for incredibly fast storage. However, shooting on Red with RAW at around 50MB/s, double that for 3D, staying with the R3Ds as long as possible, working with EXRs, storage throughput won't necessarily be the issue. Perhaps Red have unwittingly keyed neatly into the future buy placing all the pressure on CPU/GPU/Rocket and taking some pressure off I/O.
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    I had a nightmare run at NAB with Adobe. Great booth.. but man.. Some of the demo guys out the back were scaring me. When you get them scratching there heads over simple tasks, you do get a but worried.

    I tried and tried... but really it was hard work to find a demo guy that actually new how to show many anything I asked about... All the basic stuff fine, but anything RED or R3D related / speed related, card related... laptop related R3D workflow... forget it.
    I had to piece together so many bits of information from so many different people, its was becoming a joke after a while.

    ANNNNNNNYWAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY.... NAB is done for another year.

    So if somebody could point me to a reliable sorce of information regarding ADOBE PR, AE, SG (advanced) online training... and RED focused.. so I can fill in the holes that would be great.

    Thanks for the info above Les.
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