15mm Redrock shouldermount and mattebox compatibe with the Scarlet???

[Timothy Carr]

Loren - I'm very rig-challenged and posted a thread on the Accessories forum, listing your follow focus as one of the products I'd like to use.

But, for someone like me who's never put together a rig, it's a bit confusing.

Any chance of a video that would explain rigs-for-dummies? I'm after all the little hidden gotcha's that I need to watch out for, as mixing equipment from different vendors is probably the reality.

Something at a very low level, a rank beginner level?

Yeah actually that would be good. A year ago when i was building my first rig that would have been helpful. I didnt know what i needed or why. Or maybe it was because i was 14 haha

[Loren Simons]

Timothy,

I am definitely familiar with your position, as I started when I was 14 with my XH-A1 and an original M2 35mm adapter. I do wish I could have been lucky enough to have the technology of today back then, of course I know that to some of the older folks I was too considered lucky.

Les,

So I will break down a setup like Sergio's, again this is not an official bundle we offer, as we currently have no official configuration that will support the high lens mount of the Scarlet.

Background: Essentially for all your accessories to line up properly, you want the distance from the center of the rails to the center of the lens to be 85mm. Due to the Scarlet's high lens mount, this means that the rails need to be high up on the body, so much so that rails can not travel beneath the camera. So once you have established this set of rails, there will be few to none "gotcha" moments in regards to alignment.

Sergio's rig consists of the following:

Base set of rails

microSupportBaseplate (Low Riser)
Shim Kit

I will refer to all of the pieces in the microSupportBaseplate, so this numbered diagram should be used as a visual reference.


You'll see that Sergio has actually removed the low riser block (1) and attached the Quick Release bracket (2) directly to the bottom plate (3). This will get the camera lower in relation to the rods, and thus get the rods actually higher. However, that will not be enough to get you to the 85mm standard, so the additional shim kit goes between the rod clamp (4) and bottom plate (3) to raise the rods even higher.

Shoulder Mount

So now that you've got your base rail kit all figured out, you can attach the whole thing to a microShoulderMount Bundle via 1/4"-20 and 3/8"-16 screws included. You can attach virtually anything to this shoulder mount, so it's very versatile. The main reason that you want this second set of rails is to achieve a proper balance. This will give you the ability to add counterweight in the rear such as our weights or even a battery to power your whole system.


I am technically off this week recovering from the chaos that was NAB, so I do not have access to most of these pieces. If you guy's have any further questions, feel free to email me at lsimons@redrockmicro.com . I will be back in the office Wednesday and could maybe snap some additional photo's upon request.

Cheers,

Loren Simons

[Les C.]

Loren -

1. so the microShoulderMountBundle screws into the bottom plate? And to put that onto a tripod quickly, you'd un-screw the shoulder mount - or would you just un-screw the shoulder pad (if you needed to use that 2nd set of rails for a battery?)

2. What about if you have a bottom plate like the Fortis http://fortiscinema.com/fortis-xlr-adapter-combo.php already on the camera (it's one I'm looking at)? Is your shim kit enough to push the rod clamp up even higher - and would this in any way cause instability?

3. As you mentioned adding a battery, there are all kind of plates, etc. for that. I'm a bit clue-less in that area also. Are 18mm rods (from your shoulder mount) the way to go for attaching these other parts? I'd love to see some pictures of a fully setup camera from all angles.

4. What about a way to start/stop the camera? Is there some kind of attachment that would reach down to one of the handles. And for follow focus, that would certainly be useful to use a handle also?

5. My interest is not in documentary interviews, but in commercials. I have a slider and will add more equipment like that, but I'm trying to figure the best way to get some stable movement into a shot beyond what they provide (or maybe I'll rely on a dolly and tracks? - I'm trying to get my head around all of this) - so ... I want to think ahead for how all this would fit together with any other equipment I'll need - which is really a broad subject, I guess!

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Thanks so much for taking the time to explain the rods on the Scarlet in detail. I think I'm close to almost having a clue!

[Loren Simons]

Les,

I'll answer your questions with the corresponding numbers:

1. The microShoulderMount does screw into the bottom of the plate. It also has an integrated 1/4"-20 and 3/8" on the bottom for quick changes from shoulder to tripod. So essentially you leave your tripod plate attached to your shoulder mount at all times.

2. The shim kit will not cause instability at any level, there are always two screws attached to hold the rod clamp in place. In regards to that plate, I'm not familiar with them but it seems that since they have 1/4"-20's along the front, you might actually be able to attach a 15mm clamp directly to that, thus bypassing the need for the microSupportBaseplate.

3. I suggest mounting the battery plate of your choice to our microBalancePlus. This will hang off the back of the shoulder mount and provide for good counterweight, it is also left right adjustable to insure its optimal placement.

4. We do not currently make any sort of start/stop trigger and I am not familiar with any for the RED. We do however have a system coming out soon that will put focus control at your fingertips (literally). Take a look at this demo I did during NAB.

5. I see what you're saying, and I think I might be able to build a nice complete system for quickly going from shoulder mount to tripod to barebones and back. If you're not under an extreme schedule, we could talk Wednesday when I am back in and possibly do a video-skype session and build out a custom rig to fit your needs.


Cheers,

Loren Simons

[Jonas Klittmark]

Hi Timothy,

I'm very happy with Redrock. i use this setup as a shoulderrig.
in just a few hand movements its ready for a tripod, dolly etc...




the modularity is a beneficial, is balanced and lightweight.
greets

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