Real camera tests...

[Justin Kirchhoff]

I like tests. Bring on the results. Hopefully they won't have to set a curve on the results...hehe.

[Brian F Kobylarz]

This might be a good time to do a workflow test also... ?

We have already had a few ask for more time (a delay in the date) so that some new cameras could be included in the test.

Jim

If they keep asking for "just a little more time", you might just need to introduce them to a Dragon.

[Gunleik Groven]

Would be nice to see Alexa 4:3 RAW anamorph vs Epic 5k anamorph (obviously cropped, but as full a sensor as you get.)

[Paul Schneider]

As someone who has invested a lot of time, money and creativity in Red, I would much rather know the full brainpower and resources for the company are firmly dedicated in the solidification and innovation of new and better tools.

Testing is fine, but tests out of vengeance or for marketing purposes seems unfocused and unprofessional.

[Paul Schneider]

I'd be curious to see some sort of workflow survey in the feature and television industry... in particular, since anyone shooting ProRes on an Alexa, or HDCAM-SR tape on an F35, or R3D on Reds, etc. -- and in Log or RAW to boot -- and since 90% of the editing rooms use AVID (that's a wild guess), then everyone needs to deliver Rec.709 gamma footage in the DNxHD codec for offline editing... so the question is:

Is there any time difference between converting ProRes 4444 LogC vs. 4K R3D RAW to DNxHD with Rec.709 gamma? Are there any cost differences? Can all the big post houses in the major production cities do either type of conversion? If the answer is that the time and costs are the same, and all the post houses can handle either, then it's a myth that shooting ProRes 4444 HD on an Alexa is somehow more post-friendly than shooting 4K R3D RAW on a Red camera.

This would be informative.

[paulherrin]

This might be a good time to do a workflow test also... ?

We have already had a few ask for more time (a delay in the date) so that some new cameras could be included in the test.

Jim

absolutely, jim. that's where you need to win. consequently, that's where you will win. better, faster, stronger.

[Leo Sardello]

Hmmm, seems to me that the only “real” camera test is the one done by your creative team with concerns to your specific project, but maybe that’s just me. I personally rely on nothing less for my own projects.

[Madjid El ayari]

Fight of the Titans :

Genesis Versus Epic Versus F65

Scarlet Versus Alexa Versus c500

That would be awesome !!!

Made by each company with his own DOP and technical Team on the same lighted environement :Same story , different camera and technical team!!!

[Christian Jadot]

I love it Jim. I know many dislike the "macho" attitude, but I think the western world is lacking it. It is good to have that much confidence in your products.

By the way, the cheaper smaller companies would be the biggest winner in this. Blackmagic and Digital Bolex if they decided to participate. Going in knowing full well where their camera stands, but can point to the price and performance comparision.

[Christian Jadot]

PS By any weird "happenstance" will the Epic-D(ragon) be making an appearance.