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  1. #1 SolidStore - A on-set download tool 
    Initial details of our debut product the SolidStore are now available on our website.

    The SolidStore aims to serve as a flexible on-set data transfer/backup device - allowing for hassle-free transfer of media from RED CF or RED Drive to redundant removable hard drives. It is faster and easier than using a laptop on set, and a lot easier. All files are coped two the two drives and verified as they are copied.

    We're currently working on prototypes, and expect to be able to offer a production model in Q3 2008 (hopefully sooner). Our hardware platform is very flexible and has been spec'd to allow future support for XDCAM EX and P2 media, and to be expandable to support other flash and drive based professional acquisition formats as they arrive.

    We are very open to suggestion, and will be providing more information as we finalise more details of the product.

    The SolidStore is not intended to replace a laptop for things like shot review but instead intended to work alongside those tools, but also allow for an easy data offload workflow in situations where a more involved on-set DIT setup isn't required. Featuring Gigabit Ethernet, the SolidStore allows for easy file access from on-set computers.

    So, let us know what you think. What do you need to see in an device like this?
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    ...just bumping this up, seeing as I edited an older post, rather than starting a new one...
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    Yesterday would not be soon enough. :-)

    Good work Sycophant. Can't wait to use it.

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    1. capacity is going to be a big need- It would be nice if the array could hold at least two RED drives (or more) prior to removing them. This would allow for A and B cameras to dump at the same time so the RED drives can go back in to the rotation.

    2. lots of I/O- Since the red drives are mini raids the other side needs to match the pace of a red drive (really two red drives or more at the same time if possible).

    3. Rugged- it would be nice if it was already in some sort of rugged container if possible- of it there was a container readily available that would work with it.

    4. Simple workflow- plug in, push go and the files copy.

    5. DIT access- it would be nice if the DIT could access the drives, or if there was a way to access a shared RAID by both the SolidStore and the on-site playback system
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    Quote Originally Posted by solecize View Post
    1. capacity is going to be a big need- It would be nice if the array could hold at least two RED drives (or more) prior to removing them. This would allow for A and B cameras to dump at the same time so the RED drives can go back in to the rotation.
    It's reliant on small form-factor (2.5") drives - presently the largest available ones are 500GB, so two totaly full RED Drives wouldn't fit on one 500GB drive, but two Drives in real world use (ie. Not totally full) should do.

    2. lots of I/O- Since the red drives are mini raids the other side needs to match the pace of a red drive (really two red drives or more at the same time if possible).
    I haven't yet got my hands on a RED Drive, but I believe it only offers USB and FW connections, so potential transfer speed will be limited by that. Only one unit will be able to be copied at once, however copy should be faster that recrod time in most circumstances.

    3. Rugged- it would be nice if it was already in some sort of rugged container if possible- of it there was a container readily available that would work with it.
    Aside from the removable drives is it solid state, so fairly rugged. It is small enough that it shouldn't be too hard to fit it in a Pelican case or similar.

    4. Simple workflow- plug in, push go and the files copy.
    Workflow is:
    1. Insert card / connect drive
    2. Press 'go' button
    3. Wait for green light

    5. DIT access- it would be nice if the DIT could access the drives, or if there was a way to access a shared RAID by both the SolidStore and the on-site playback system
    The content of the drives is available via SMB/Windows (and possibly NFS) network share over Gigabit Ethernet. Otherwise the drive cartridges can be removed and used as an external harddrive with a supplied cable and power supply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor Wixom View Post
    Yesterday would not be soon enough. :-)
    Sadly Yesterday would be a little difficult, what with the space/time continuum and all.

    We're estimating Q3 production, but if the gods smile on us it could be a bit sooner than that. Keep an eye on the site and here, I'll post more information as I am able to.
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    Great product idea Dylan.. What is the Price point?

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    I would rethink the 2.5" drive limitition. These are always much slower and about double the price of similar 3.5" drives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Birdy View Post
    Great product idea Dylan.. What is the Price point?
    We're still finalising supplier and pricing details, so I can't announce a price just yet, but will do in the next month.

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    I would rethink the 2.5" drive limitition. These are always much slower and about double the price of similar 3.5" drives.
    Agreed, there are drawbacks to 2.5 drives, but we're aiming to keep the overall physical size of the device as small as possible, and a removable 3.5" drive actually requires quite a lot more space than you'd expect.

    Also, 2.5" drives are more resilient to common handling motion and vibration than larger drives, and overall the prices aren't too bad.
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    RedDrive definitely has an eSATA connector, it's just in a non-standard format. If you're building a device to interface with the RedDrive though, why not go the whole way and make an eSATA adaptor that plugs directly into the RedDrive's proprietary connector? Then you'd have full speed SATA throughput with just the addition of the RedDrive's power cable.

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